[Ellen Allien + Apparat] album

[dubman]

Originally Posted by BrotherLovesDub

waiting until April is going to kill the sales of this album. i won't be super excited to see it in the shops for 17-20 dollars but i will pick it up when it hits the used racks for 7-10 dollars. if it were in the shops today or even available on Kompakt-mp3, i'd buy it right now. unfortunately, they wanted to get reviews/hype to maximize their profits. that scheme has backfired and now they're crying foul. you can't have it both ways.

worst line of reasoning ever.

[BrotherLovesDub]

Originally Posted by dubman

worst line of reasoning ever.

care to explain?

as far as i can tell, lots of people would buy this album today (or a month ago when it leaked) but it's not available. chatter starts on the internet and people go to Soulseek to find a copy. after waiting the 3 months for the album to come out, they've moved on to another release and this one slips through the cracks. until i see it used, i won't buy it. it's going to be an import for sale for about 20USD. by the time it's out, i've had it for more than 90 days, and that's assuming we get it in the US the same time it's released in the UK/EU. not likely.

explain why that's the worst line of reasoning ever.

[dubman]

because whats the reason for buying it then? if you've moved on and wont shell out the proper price for it simply because it was a matter of time, then where do things like "liking the music" play a role? do you buy CDs because they're new and you havent heard it before, and not for the sounds contained within? because thats what it sounds like.

buying it used instead of new simply because it's been too long for the release date implies that you're only buying it new to get music as it's available (and again, not for the actual music), which is completely ridiculous.

secondly, and even more incredibly asinine, is this evil plot you've associated with people trying to make a buck (translated into "maximizing profits," an evil practice only done by the morally bankrupt) over what they've spent months working on. the three month wait is pretty standard once an album is finished, and having it leaked all over the internet is not "backfiring" against any "scheme" whatsoever.

so stop justifying being such a cheapass by blaming it on them.

[BrotherLovesDub]

Originally Posted by dubman

so stop justifying being such a cheapass by blaming it on them.

Guilty as charged, on all accounts. I do buy things just to have them. I often buy things I already have downloaded in high quality and never even put them in the CD player. Either I like the artwork or I collect that artists/labels releases.

[Jafs]

So who have listened to this album?

I've heard "Way out", "Floating Points", "Jet" and "Do not break". Some track are good(Jet, Way out), the others are more forgettable(FP, DNB). But I'm searching for good "techno" albums to buy so I'm coming back about this release.

[mkb]

i dig it, but it's not amazing.

as for amazing techno albums, buy ian o'brien's "desert scores" immediately! also stephen beaupre's "foe destroyer" is quite good