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Old 07-24-2008, 09:47 AM
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Re: New Japan only CD/DVD set coming soon
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I'm an american, are we getting screwed here?
yes we are. but it's not underworld that's screwing us.
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Old 07-24-2008, 10:04 AM
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Re: New Japan only CD/DVD set coming soon
I also just ordered the "The bells the bells" CD on Underworld live.com..nice new addition. Sadly i fooked things up and it is now supposed to be sent to the UK instead of Germany. I hope their customer service is responsive.
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Old 07-25-2008, 09:57 AM
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Re: New Japan only CD/DVD set coming soon
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It's All-Region and NTSC, so you're good to go.
it'd be nice if they mentioned that somewhere in the digital store.

But thanks for the response. Now if I can talk the moolah out of my wife...
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Old 07-25-2008, 05:17 PM
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Re: New Japan only CD/DVD set coming soon
So, I mentioned earlier that there were problems with the DVD. The technical issues really ruin this release for me. Somehow there seems to have been absolutely no QA before the DVD went out the door.

1. Boy, Boy, Boy's audio channels are skewed for the first 45 seconds or so. It begins almost completely in the left channel and gradually moves to the center. This is not how it's supposed to be because if you watch the stream on uwlive.com or various other sources for the video, it doesn't do this. I can't even fathom how this problem happened in the first place or how it got past a simple headphone check.

2. The fancy graphical Ring Road video (Graham Wood's) is composed for 16:9, but it's presented on the disc as 4:3 letterbox instead of anamorphically enhanced. All the other widescreen videos on the disc are anamorphically enhanced. A shame.

3. Beautiful Burnout at the Oblivion Ball is perhaps the most disappointing. The audio track during the whole video is out of sync by about a half second. This is most apparent when Karl is singing lyrics and the camera is focused on a close-up of him. It is a bit apparent at other times too with light synchronization and Karl's dance movements. Also:

4. The aspect ratio on BB is all messed up! WTF! It's essentially been authored for a 16:10 display, which is not a valid flag in DVD Video. It's displayed at 16:9, of course, so everything looks vertically squished. Bad aspect ratios are a major pet peeve of mine, so between that and the audio sync issue, this video was hugely aggravating.

5. Of minor note is the fact that they edited out the video footage of all 3 botched lyrical entrances by Karl and the lighting crew. That was the reason for all the smiling between R+K and Rick's frantic hand waving at the beginning of the video. You can still kind of hear it in the audio track, but it's been mixed down like it was in the CD release. I can understand why they edited it out, but from a personal standpoint, I would have liked to have seen it.
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Old 07-25-2008, 05:22 PM
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Re: New Japan only CD/DVD set coming soon
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Bad aspect ratios are a major pet peeve of mine, so between that and the audio sync issue, this video was hugely aggravating.
shit; i'd better not look at it either - i'd convulse!
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  #146  
Old 07-26-2008, 04:52 AM
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Re: New Japan only CD/DVD set coming soon
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I also just ordered the "The bells the bells" CD on Underworld live.com..nice new addition. Sadly i fooked things up and it is now supposed to be sent to the UK instead of Germany. I hope their customer service is responsive.

Dammit, I did the same thing (UK instead of Ireland)
I'm assuming there's a customer service mail address on a order confirmation mail? (ordered on my work mail)

Brain not function good today.
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Old 07-31-2008, 10:10 AM
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Re: New Japan only CD/DVD set coming soon
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So, I mentioned earlier that there were problems with the DVD. The technical issues really ruin this release for me. Somehow there seems to have been absolutely no QA before the DVD went out the door.

issues omitted for brevity

thanks for keeping this up to date,
i had noted the issues also, but not in as much detail...

it looks like we'll have to try some remastering/correcting
to fix them up....sigh..another project...

but at least we can add them onto bootleg babies 2..

later
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Old 07-31-2008, 11:32 AM
Sean
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Re: New Japan only CD/DVD set coming soon
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thanks for keeping this up to date,
i had noted the issues also, but not in as much detail...

it looks like we'll have to try some remastering/correcting
to fix them up....sigh..another project...

but at least we can add them onto bootleg babies 2..

later
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Ooo - I was actually about to buy the set when I came here and just saw this. Not sure it's worth it if the DVD is riddled with this many basic issues. Dammit.
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Old 07-31-2008, 12:09 PM
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Re: New Japan only CD/DVD set coming soon
weird. i watched the whole thing and didn't think there were any issues other than the syncing being off on Beautiful Burnout.

the 'fans' will never be happy.
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Old 07-31-2008, 01:47 PM
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Re: New Japan only CD/DVD set coming soon
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it looks like we'll have to try some remastering/correcting
to fix them up....sigh..another project...
BBB is easy to correct. Fixing BB is not technically difficult either. Ring Road, unfortunately, nothing can be done.

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the 'fans' will never be happy.
This has absolutely nothing to do with whether I'm a fan or not and my corresponding level of enjoyment. The product was released with technical defects. Ring Road suffered a 33% loss in resolution. This is like a CD being mastered from MP3's instead of 24/96 masters.

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