ebay tokyo cd's to be listed tomorow..

[dubman]

Originally Posted by potatobroth

convoluted is a system where we have to declare via a poll IF we are going to buy the item, then wait 3 weeks to find out a date (no time mind you) when the items are going to be released on a third party site, then have to check the forums again to find out they were released at 5am and that they are in fact, all gone.

simple is a system where you click a link on Dirty or UWlive, and purchase the cds. No guess work, no waiting and hoping that you hit refresh quick enough or stayed up all night.

eyah, how about we phone up mal and ask him to make a site just for you because you just can't handle all of this nail-biting uncertainty, all of the meaningless waiting, and missed deadlines even when it's coming again! are your stress levels maxed out yet?!

christ, this is like getting a laptop for your birthday and complaining that you didnt know about it beforehand, and people had to ASK you what you wanted.

you're getting a goddamn 3-CD gig, it's not even that complicated, you're just antsy because you think you've waited for too long. dry your eyes and just friggin go with it if you want one at all.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by potatobroth

i hate to be the negative person here, but whats to stop the same people from buying them each release?

i guess i just hate how convoluted everything is now. could have been so simple but instead, we have to jump through hoops to get listens to this stuff. this isnt the way it used to be.

I promise I won't buy any more. One's good enough for me....

[stimpee]

Pototobroth: this is sounding more and more like sour grapes from you. The only persons fault it is for not getting a CD set is yours. Yannick said when they would be onsale and gave us the link. The only thing that made it a pain in the arse was the fact that midday UK time is pretty damn awkward for people in the Americas.

I got mine in the first auction of 10, but I do remember that 8 hours later, in the evening UK time another 10 was made available. Maybe this time the auction for the next 50 will be at a more favourable time.

"simple is a system where you click a link on Dirty or UWlive, and purchase the cds. No guess work, no waiting and hoping that you hit refresh quick enough or stayed up all night." and that would also be selling them through an official channel which I believe would be against the terms of the original Electraglide agreement. These are being sold through Mal's personal ebay account which in all probability neatly sidesteps any legal wrangles.

Comprendez?

[potatobroth]

Originally Posted by gaborez

that's gratitude for ya..............

ugh. this isnt about gratitude. like ive said before, yannick has done more for me in regards to UW than anyone else on this board combined and ive thanked and rethanked him to no end. its just that lately, things are getting more and more difficult around here in the way of music, and the aquiring of. i cant be the only one who thinks this way. eh maybe im way off and you all are just trying to knock me down to reality again

as an avid collector of UW (mostly for the music, less for the item) this show in particular has proven to be hoop after hoop after hoop before becoming one that has and looking back at those that want.

[potatobroth]

Originally Posted by stimpee

and that would also be selling them through an official channel which I believe would be against the terms of the original Electraglide agreement. These are being sold through Mal's personal ebay account which in all probability neatly sidesteps any legal wrangles.

Comprendez?

really? i thought this was underworld selling them and not us. and if its us, where the heck did we come up with 100+ more cds? are these just burned copies? if thats the case then yeah sell them how you want.

and believe it or not, this isnt sour grapes. you got one of the first ten, no doubt, because you knew about it ahead of time. i have no problem with that. i know yannick is doing all he can to get them in our hands, trust me i do. its the manner of doing this that i dont like. there are just so many unecessary steps and luck involved. if thats the intention, then so be it. but to say its my fault i didnt get one when they sold out so fast isnt fair really. using this method, not all of us are going to get one.

[stimpee]

Originally Posted by potatobroth

really? i thought this was underworld selling them and not us. and if its us, where the heck did we come up with 100+ more cds? are these just burned copies? if thats the case then yeah sell them how you want.

The legal position is that they cant commercially sell them outside of the halls of Electraglide, simple as that. Its entirely feasible that the unsold CDs were returned to the Tomato offices in the UK.

Originally Posted by potatobroth

and believe it or not, this isnt sour grapes. you got one of the first ten, no doubt, because you knew about it ahead of time. i have no problem with that. i know yannick is doing all he can to get them in our hands, trust me i do. its the manner of doing this that i dont like. there are just so many unecessary steps and luck involved. if thats the intention, then so be it. but to say its my fault i didnt get one when they sold out so fast isnt fair really. using this method, not all of us are going to get one.

which goes to show you cant please all of the people all of the time. As for being told about it ahead of time, i was told about it by Karl via his underworldlive.com picture to keep an eye on ebay. I was looking every day and spotted that they were on sale. In fact, I even said to myself that these must be more people bootlegging it again. 6 copies of the 10 had already gone and I got one of the last 4 and told the dirties in close proximity to me to get the other three. I'm just the person who cleans the shit up around here and I don't get any preferential treatment.

Things are not getting more and more difficult round here in the acquiring of music. With Riverrun you didnt even have to leave the house to buy it. Its just because the Japanese got their exclusives with 2 items. The JAL EP and the Tokyo 3CD, one was to promote Electraglide and the other was a souvenir of Electraglide.

Underworld didnt have to make these CDs available to us, but they gone out of their way to try to make sure that dirties have got them and by and large, they have in 80-90% of the cases. I suspect that if you dont get one next week it will be either because you didnt get out of bed in time again, or are still here moaning.

[BeautifulBurnout]

Originally Posted by potatobroth

as an avid collector of UW (mostly for the music, less for the item) this show in particular has proven to be hoop after hoop after hoop before becoming one that has and looking back at those that want.

Jeez, we are lucky to be able to get our hands on this thing at all!

It was released as an Electraglide-only thing, and UW and the Lemonworld bods and everyone else involved has bent over backwards to make sure that the real fans are able to get their hands on a copy. I was fortunate to get my hands on a rip of them early in the day. I was also fortunate* enough not to be working the day the first 10 showed up on eBay and was able to purchase it straight away.

But hey, maybe if you whine enough, Rick and Karl will have one personally delivered to your door with a crate of Crystal, a kilo of caviar and a sprinkling of the fairy dust that you assume everyone else around here possesses and you don't!

Qui part a la chasse perd sa place! Get with the program!

[potatobroth]

Originally Posted by dubman

eyah, how about we phone up mal and ask him to make a site just for you because you just can't handle all of this nail-biting uncertainty, all of the meaningless waiting, and missed deadlines even when it's coming again! are your stress levels maxed out yet?!

christ, this is like getting a laptop for your birthday and complaining that you didnt know about it beforehand, and people had to ASK you what you wanted.

you're getting a goddamn 3-CD gig, it's not even that complicated, you're just antsy because you think you've waited for too long. dry your eyes and just friggin go with it if you want one at all.

no, its more like saying: a bunch of people had advance word to buyng a laptop 2 months ago and got a very small release of them. and some other people, who use a fan forum of said laptop, were asked "hey, who wants to buy this laptop when it comes out?" and many replied, "why I would like to buy this laptop." well you have to wait and hope you actually get one because we're really not suppossed to be selling them anyway, but we are so there are some available, but only to those that were in the right place at the right time. and all the while, some people are selling these laptops are quadruple the cost and thus, causing drastic measures by the laptop forum people to try and combat it.

i understand i dragged this out way too far, and for that i apologize. but it doesnt change the fact that things, to me, seem like they are getting a lot more complicated in regards to dirty. maybe im wrong, and really i admit i might be, but that doesnt change the fact that it seems that way to me.

[ultradave]

Originally Posted by potatobroth

using this method, not all of us are going to get one.

mr. potatobroth has a point. I for one was fortunate enough to get one of these (anxiously awaits a package in the mail ). One thing I will say though, is if the CD was available by regular channels (i.e. UW website, etc...) , although it would then be available to all, then it wouldn't be as much an item for the superfan such as myself and no doubt yourself and most, if not all on the dirtylist. That being said, those of us that do obtain a copy (whether by keeping to date with the forums, or spending insane amounts of money) will have something we can consider special and rare - making us super UW fans.

I myself am primarily a collector of music, rather than hats and t-shirts and flyers and unused concert tix, but there are just some things that you have to own in physical, tangeableness. I d/l this show long before I found out about copies being sold - yet I still purchased it, because the mp3's alone just didn't give me that pride of ownership - sure this is just a 3CD live concert. But that's what sets us apart from the novices when it comes to UW.

hmmm, despite being a music collector, I really need to get me a pair of them UW Adidas...

Cheers,


now playing: Waiting For The Night To Fall - DM

[dubman]

Originally Posted by ultradave

sure this is just a 3CD live concert. But that's what sets us apart from the novices when it comes to UW.

>_<

what?

it's not the sense of permance or increased likelyhood that you have this to enjoy 10-20 years from now, it simply distinguishes you amid a small group of collectors??