Paul Van Dyk is a musical genius. How amazing will he make Diamond Jigsaw?

[stimpee]

Im glad you guys like it. For me it sounds dated, sounds Underworld mk1, and comparing it to old New Order stuff isnt a compliment. Just makes it even more dated. It just sounds like Underworld-by-numbers. Feels bad to say it but its just bland.

[dubman]

The guitar is a dumb idea no matter where it came from, but if underworld wanted to make pop songs, I think this one went well for them. Crap as an "underworld tune", but really I'll take it if it's enjoyable

[khouri]

The demo version of Diamond Jigsaw on the Barking bonus disc is, as Karl said, NOTHING like Underworld. No synths, just guitar, rock drum sounds and Karl's singing. It's a fun, upbeat little ditty but definitely not Underworld.

I like PVD's remix a lot but I'm afraid the awesome synthpop version from the Las Vegas show will remain the best version of this divisive Underworld track.

[potatobroth]

i was quite surprised that the 80s synth version wasn't the one chosen for CD2.

[tokyorai]

I think Diamond Jigsaw might be the worst track on the album. I've listend to a lot of Paul Van Dyk's work and think this can't be one of his best examples. Even on the BBC radio show with Karl Hyde, the host mentioned something about how Diamong Jigsaw is not like most work Van Dyk makes... I guess the host didn't care for the track either because he didn't play it at all during the show.

just my two pence...

[eturnol]

Originally Posted by BrotherLovesDub

Doesn't nearly have the sound I was fearing. Overall I think I appreciate his delicate touch more than what Ramirez/Knight did. My biggest complaint on the whole album is the quality of the kicks and simplicity of the rhythms on Diamond Jigsaw, Between Stars and ALAF. It proves how good Rick Smith is at the little details and how downright boring PVD and Knight/Ramirez are with tech-house kick drum programming.

EXACTLY. Underworlds production is intricate, detailed, evolving, and all around more mature than EVERYONE they worked with on this album. These collaborators should be learning from Underworld, not producing them. If you compare any of the new tracks with the older tracks, the new just fall back to repeating hooks, boring drum work, and the old epic trance peaks and valleys. This album in uninspired and mainstream. What were they thinking???

[Sappys Curry]

Originally Posted by eturnol

EXACTLY. Underworlds production is intricate, detailed, evolving, and all around more mature than EVERYONE they worked with on this album. These collaborators should be learning from Underworld, not producing them. If you compare any of the new tracks with the older tracks, the new just fall back to repeating hooks, boring drum work, and the old epic trance peaks and valleys. This album in uninspired and mainstream. What were they thinking???

Yeah, I'm fine with Barking, not too impressed with it, but it is a decent album. I just hope that the next Underworld album is just Rick, Karl, and maybe Darren Price (what I'm saying is hopefully it won't be full of collaborations like Barking).

However, it would be cool if for an album they decided to collaborate with artists like Massive Attack, Orbital, The Chemical Brothers, Boards of Canada, and Aphex Twin.

[eturnol]

Originally Posted by Sappys Curry

However, it would be cool if for an album they decided to collaborate with artists like Massive Attack, Orbital, The Chemical Brothers, Boards of Canada, and Aphex Twin.

Ooooo some of those collaborations sound interesting. I would like to hear an IDM take on Underworld, maybe with Flying Lotus as well.

But I think it would be cool if Underworld did something like that as an extra disc added on to a release that contained only their own material. With Barking, they did the opposite.

[jose m]

Originally Posted by eturnol

Ooooo some of those collaborations sound interesting. I would like to hear an IDM take on Underworld, maybe with Flying Lotus as well.

But I think it would be cool if Underworld did something like that as an extra disc added on to a release that contained only their own material. With Barking, they did the opposite.

the chemical brothers,aphex twin,massive attack.........back to the 90's.
fresh

[big screen satellite]

so, having made music which is basically electronica for the past 15 years, Karl Hyde and Rick Smith who made two albums as a guitar based band in the 1980's are not allowed to use guitars again...

come on guys get over it...

you don't have to like the track, but there is NO method to Underworld - no set in stone 'Underworld' formula,

Karl and Rick are having fun on this track, at least they are playing instruments and singing proper tunes, rather than putting out bland soundscapes for the few hardcore fans who are into computer games soundtracks...

music for listening doesn't have to be complicated or intricate, it can be simple and melodic - its not a crime - those of you with a better understanding of music should make your own stuff and listen to that, plenty of people are enjoying the simplistic popularist approach that this album and its collaborations have created...

i'm not sticking up for Underworld for the fact they are my fav band, but for the fact that this album (Barking), is simply one of their best, and i'll happily say that their previous effort (OWB) one of their worst, not bad though, just not as good as previous outings...

trying to say how this album should have sounded or who should have been involved is futile... you don't have to like it but this is what UW chose to make and its a triumph (well in my opinion!)