Electronic vs Rock music (live)

[Rog]

Originally Posted by monkeyboy

I mean for night time i'd rather hear electronic music and for an evening rock music.

Ahhhhh i misunderstood you

[undarrenworld]

Originally Posted by monkeyboy

And no I don;t want to sing "We become one".

We Come One

That kick ass mate

[absolute zero]

How about the karaoke-ish electronic acts? I think it depends on the artists' music and how into it the crowd is. I'd consider underworld or depeche mode kind of electronic shows right, both put out amaaaazing sets, but then again their fans are insanely devoted. (btw I'm seeing DM again tonight, they put on a great show last night, my voice is 90% gone)

[joethelion]

I'd say - normally, I'd rather see an electronic band over a rock band

as there just seems to be a higher likelihood of a communal vibe, and it's really rare that you encounter what are the stereotypical rock-crowds here in DC... you just stand in one place chainsmoking... and give glares at the people who - gasp - might actually be enjoying themselves!

and I find the rock bands who do nothing but stand still during the whole gig (only moving to grab another beer) just as obnoxious, if not moreso, than the electronic bands / performers who don't move away from their laptops

I also think it's much much harder for a rock band to really grab an audience than it is for an electronic act - basically going back to that whole communal aspect...

like... I don't really know how this is relevant overall - but anyways, it's a good story. So, I saw Moby on both his Area1 & Area2 Tours, during these tours he had a rather large band, yet still had a nice electronic feel with a loose-ness that you can get from a larger band with percussionists, et al (much improving their respective albums... seriously) -> then I saw him here in DC for the Hotel Tour, which not only was a low-key tour, it also had a stripped down, more 'rocky' band eirgo, all the songs were definitely more rock-vibed.

Well - in Area1, it was easy to get close to the stage, and there was a real sense of 'connectiveness' with him on stage (he'd even stop and chat with us) but at this Hotel Tour show, you couldn't move whatsoever. The only time I was able to move at all was... well a bit of a preface. This guy was (obviously) trying to impress his girl, and her friends - so he pushed forward knocking people over, to get them up front. All of the girls were obnoxiously overdressed (high heels and sequins). Then Moby starts playing "Natural Blues" at which, all the girls start getting excited - like "oh this is my favorite song" and start singing along.... until they realize that Moby's playing a very very very different version.... reeaaaalllly slow

-> meaning - they can't sing along to it... get pissy looks on their face, and start to aimlessly wander back a bit - allowing me + my friends to get closer to the stage

...and none of that would happen at an electronic show

[//\/\/]

Originally Posted by Rog

See faithless live and you get musicians playing Drums/bass/guitar/keyboards and you also get 'electronic music'..........and the crowd sings along

at the end of the day, however, there's still no getting away from the idea that it's faithless up there and that, as sure as eggs is eggs, maxi jazz is going to ruin it

[holden]

i think there's gotta be some distinction between electronic "bands" that simply sequence and button-push, and those that make an effort to tweak and improv. i mean, if you go to see an electronic band live, then its understood that you'll be hearing live renditions (read: different from LP) of tracks. It shouldn't be a DJ set, imho.

As good examples of doing it right, i'm thinking of course of Underworld, but also Moby, Hybrid, and Depeche Mode, all of whom include live musicians in large part to their shows.

[Liam]

I agree with the distinction between live acts and DJs. I think of going to a DJ set as a totally different thing than going to a gig. I go to a set to hear music that I've never heard before, I go to a concert to hear music I know and love. However, I think that there's a further distinction to be made within live electronic bands. Underworld and Orbital were completely revolutionary in their performance as they were, as far as I am aware, the first people to basically put their studio on stage and then work with the freedom that this gives them. As has been documented here, most live acts either seem to rely on the pre-programming of their music or on live musicians. Both of these can be a lot of fun, but the levels that Underworld reach in their performances are something else entirely, the most complex and creative music I have ever heard.

Underworld (and I am mostly talking of the Underworld from 1994 - 1999) and Orbital are the only two bands that I have ever seen do this, and Underworld to far greater heights than Orbital (not to do discredit to one of my very favourite bands). Every other live act I've seen has either been pre-programmed or has used instruments.

[Dirty0900]

I went to see Coldplay on sunday and most of the people were so rude! My brother tried to get forward to a space and soem bloke stopped him, saying something like it was his space and he weren't moving........

[Rog]

Originally Posted by //\/\/

at the end of the day, however, there's still no getting away from the idea that it's faithless up there and that, as sure as eggs is eggs, maxi jazz is going to ruin it

*choke*