Dirty History

[Scott Warner]

I was going through some of my old archives and stumbled upon messages I saved from the earliest incarnation of Dirty, the Dirtylist. These are all circa 1996. I'm just dumping this here in raw form so I'm not promising anything coherent; I just thought some of you might find it interesting to see what this community was like nearly 14 years ago.

First few messages here are all from Mr. Emerson.

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From: Darren Emerson <d@spoonman.demon.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 03:46:45 +0000
Subject: Hello all......

I'm just writing this quickie to say that, I am around...
I've just got a new computer and I'm having a few minor problems with
it...
But I am recieving my mail still...

Hopefully I'll see you all at Big Love.....

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From: Darren Emerson <d@spoonman.demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 00:03:09 +0000
Subject: ===

Martin (who saw Darren DJing at the Complex on Friday night, but who was
less than blown away. Dave Angel was MILES better)

======================

he should have came last saturday.....i was back on form....that friday
wasn't a good nite for me..
still we all have our ups and downs...
now that Underworld has calmed down a little I can get back into some djin

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From: Darren Emerson <d@spoonman.demon.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 09:39:11 +0000
Subject: top 10

here's a top 10 i done for mixmag recently:

1.Life's Little Pleasures...Ned Flanders...Underwater Records
2.Scenic Route.....Urban Groove......Parasols (Plink Plonk)
3.Bless The Funk....N.Y. Connection.......Evolution
4.Cliffhanger E.P......Cliffhanger.......Underwater Records.
5.Premonition......Downlink e.p.....4th Wave Records
6.N.P.2..2...........FLARE.......Reel Records.
7.Babes From Bahia(Eddie Flashin Fowlkes Mix)......Rio Funk...End Records
8.Echoes Of The Set......Alien Funk Movement....AFM.
9.Abstrakt Dance 003
10.Sweet Decay EP.......KEEK... Head In The Clouds.


so shut up you lot
anyway...looks like i'm up and running on my computer again...so i'll be on
here a bit.....

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From: Darren Emerson <d@spoonman.demon.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 10:27:14 +0000
Subject: THANX !!!!!!!

Just gonna say thanx to everyone that came to see us at Big Love.
we had a great time apart from a few minor wierd things things.

Anyway thanx to everyone that has supported us this year...wot can i say..
top year 4 us.

we're gonna chill for a couple of months...well i say chil...
I'm gonna be djin all over the place...and hopefully get in
the studio and put ideas down ...maybe do a few remixes etc

but we're gonna start the next album in jan....i'm still gonna be poopin
about on here though.

If you fancy coming out to a club in london...i'm gonna be doin the end
once a month on a sat.....i'll be doin that every month with Mr C.
it's a stormin nite so get your arse down there.


Also at the moment I'm doin a mix for bjork...so hopefully I'll have that done


oh yeah...new release on Underwater soon...h20 005....Cliffhanger(mr Price)
and I've done one for the following release 006.....lovely

speak to you soon

emerson
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From: Darren Emerson <d@spoonman.demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 06:54:29 +0000
Subject: Re: darren interview

>hopefully i'm talking to darren today at tomato about 'dirtylist'. it's
>for a 5 minute show about the net and technology etc. for radio 1 in the
>UK. it's little late to be asking but any comments or questions you think
>i should ask?
>
>tamsin

Yeah...done it today..nice one Tamsin...I'll look forward to
hearing my stoopid voice on thursday.
So it's on thrusday evening kids...
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From: Darren Emerson <d@spoonman.demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 06:54:26 +0000
Subject: Re: Underworld recordbags

>On Ocrober 8th, Scott Warner wrote:
>
><<I think we need a _dirtylist_ shirt. yeah...with that john deer lawnmower
>image from "Born Slippy." And we can superimpose Duncan riding on it.>>
>
>Hahahaha!!!
>I'd bootleg a few just to see that....
>Troy

Actually...that's got me thinking...maybe we should do a T-shirt `n ting.
hands up all in favour...
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From: Darren Emerson <d@spoonman.demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 06:54:33 +0000
Subject: Re: darren interview

>and she also had seen the video on t.v. the other night.
>
>then she suddenly said: "one of them is kind of cute".

tell her I'm not worth it...i've got a beer gut
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From: Darren Emerson <d@spoonman.demon.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 11:04:49 +0000
Subject: Re: I vote "I like his hair too"

>something I have been thinking of. Why are UW releasing promos of their
>second to last single, especially when their last single was a re-
>release?
>I know darren said they were taking a rest but this is ridiculous are
>they working backwards through their back catalogue?
>------------------------
>Duncan Pike

welll...the reason why Pearls Girl is being re-released is because we think
it's a strong track.
Steve thinks it will do alot better this time and derseves a higher place
in the chart.
I was a bit dubious about it at first...but it is one of my faves...so
sorry Duncan if you've got the hump about it ...tin there's on there
though...also there's a remix of pearls girl that has been done and its
great...so hopefully we'll try and get that out.

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From: Darren Emerson <d@spoonman.demon.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 11:04:53 +0000
Subject: NME article about Big Love

What a load of crap...
I know that Ben Willmott doesn't like Underworld but theres no need to make
up lies about the gig.
Everyone that went to Big Love knows that it was a good nite and that
people weren't having a bad time.

it's not cool or credible to like a band that sells a lot of records ...
typical old indie kid that discovers dance music...sad..

well got that off me chest

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From: Darren Emerson <d@spoonman.demon.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:49:33 +0000
Subject: Re: NME article about Big Love

>On Thu, 10 Oct 1996, Scott Warner wrote:
>Damn, beat me to it. I was going to ask if that was the same guy who's
>wrote the negative things about Underworld in the past (like the only
>bad review of _Second Toughest_, in Vox magazine.) Oh well, I get the
>impression that, to him, if you're having a good time at a gig, then
>it's just not a good a gig then.
>
>I really don't think that's the in-general opinion about a live
>Underworld performance. That guy will never be pleased with anything, so
>why bother?
>
>
>Scott Warner
>interrupt@pbrealtors.com

As long it only sells 50 records ,it's really cool and trendy..
you always get 'em.
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From: Darren Emerson <d@spoonman.demon.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:49:37 +0000
Subject: Re: I vote "I like his hair too"

>but why not release the other storming track off the album - Juanita. or
>is it cheaper and easier to do a re-release with one remixed version?
>------------------------
>Duncan Pike

well...juanita is a bloody long track....we all love it ,but how do you do
an edit on the track and not lose the vibe on it..??

it's hard sometimes ...but i think Pearl's girl is one of me faves anyway.

Funny thing happened the other day actually.You know that we got the name
"Pearl's Girl" from a greyhound ...well,the owner of the dog rang us up the
other day to say thank you for using the name..

She said that Pearl's Girl was very happy and that she has just had puppies.
Which is even more weird because there is a track called "puppies" on the
release....strange eh?
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From: Darren Emerson <d@spoonman.demon.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 10:21:54 +0000
Subject: Re: Favorite Tracks...

>When I got into high school, I went through that "80's alternative" stage,
>put away my rap records, and listed a lot to the Smiths, the Cure, Bauhaus,
>that sort of thing. As soon as I got into techno, all of that became
>really boring to me really fast...but I still love New Order. They're
>the Beatles of the 80's to me.
>
>scott warner

nice selection scott.....it sounds like we were into the same sort of stuff
when we were younger also the later stuff...the cure new order....

thats why you most probably like us...you've got the same taste
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From: Darren Emerson <d@spoonman.demon.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 10:21:58 +0000
Subject: Re: underwater, take 3...

>so, Darren, can I take it that there is no Underwater web page (yet)?
>
>Tom

you are totaly correct......i'm useless ain't i


got some good stuff coming out though...
number 5 is cliffhanger....4 wicked fast tracks (mr Price)
then number 6.....ME with 2 tracks ...dunno wot there called yet but i'm
gonna get them pressed soon.....

[Scott Warner]

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From: Darren Emerson <d@spoonman.demon.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 15:42:40 +0000
Subject: Re: (Fwd) NME free tape

>In message <549F3965C05@liblan.dundee.ac.uk>, Andrew Jackson
><andrewj@liblan.dundee.ac.uk> writes
>>Next week's NME comes with a free 45 minute tape of techno/jungle
>>stuff - including an 'exclusive' remix of 'Pearl's Girl' and 'Mix 3'
>>of 'The Box', plus Leftfield, 'Loops of Fury' by Chem Bros and some
>>other stuff.
>
>Right bets please on wether the exclusive unreleased remix of pearls
>girl is in fact the new mix that darren mentioned would be out on the
>28th. Very rarely do you actually get anything truly unreleased on these
>tapes, it's normally just stuff that is about to be released.
>
>Not that I won't be buying it anyway.
>------------------------
>Duncan Pike
>duncanp@northcroft.co.uk
>--------------------------------------------------------------------
>Opinions above, expressed or implicit, are my personal opinions only
>and not necessarily those of my employer.
>--------------------------------------------------------------------
I think i messed up on the post i sent a while ago about the Pearl's
girl release..

I don't know if this remix is gonna be on the single SORRY...

but i do know I have 2 test pressings of the remix to play when djin.
also on the flip is ROWLA....looking forward to spinnin this out.
So basically i can see this floating out in the shops in a month or 2.

xx



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From: Darren Emerson <d@spoonman.demon.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 15:42:14 +0000
Subject: Re: darren and mc hyde

>In message <v01530500ae89141bcf51@[158.152.52.156]>, Darren Emerson
><d@spoonman.demon.co.uk> writes
>>
>>well.we spoke about it...i know that Karl is up for doin something like that.
>>but i think they're are better ways of doin something instead of mcin over
>>my djin.
>>
>
>the question I really want answered though is are you playing at the
>social whether with or without Karl
>------------------------
>Duncan Pike
>duncanp@northcroft.co.uk
>--------------------------------------------------------------------
>Opinions above, expressed or implicit, are my personal opinions only
>and not necessarily those of my employer.
>--------------------------------------------------------------------

yes i am duncan



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From: Darren Emerson <d@spoonman.demon.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 15:42:26 +0000
Subject: Re: Immanuel can^t take it anymore

>>unsubscribe dirtylist Mike Albert <M.J.Albert@uea.ac.uk>
>
>Bye Mike. Nae stamina. Last toughest in the infants: MJA.
>
>Tom

yeah wimp...outya go
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From: Darren Emerson <d@spoonman.demon.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 15:42:44 +0000
Subject: Re: slagging darren

>darren
>
>get a haircut and tidy yourself up what must your mother think
>
>gosh I feel bad now
>------------------------
>Duncan Pike
>duncanp@northcroft.co.uk
>--------------------------------------------------------------------
>Come on you slags - AFX
>--------------------------------------------------------------------

COME ON SEBASTIAN!!!!RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW...!!!!!
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From: Darren Emerson <d@spoonman.demon.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 15:42:37 +0000
Subject: Re: Several Threads

>I hope all you UK-based listers have taken advantage of my tip-off
>about the JBO compilation - I was listening to it again last night
>and realised I'd forgotten how good it is, especially Bigmouth.
>About time for Volume 2 I think!
>
>As far as the trainspotter debate is concerned, Martin Thomas
>has hit the nail on the head. What I want to know is the
>precise definition of "gricer". A senior member of staff of my
>acquaintance likes to refer to himself as one, meaning he is
>interested in trains, but I read an article in The Face earlier
>this year, which said that gricers are people who break into
>train-yards at night, remove their clothes and take pictures of
>the sleeping engines! Maybe that's what he means!
>
>As far as playing in Australia I would administer an extremely
>large pinch of salt to any rumours - part of the reason that the
>Big Love gig was such an event was the oft-quoted comment that
>it would be the last show for a very long time (Karl used these
>very word before the last encore I think). If we assume three or
>four months to chill and then at least the same again to knock a
>new LP together, I for one am not expecting to see the Romford
>Three until next years British festival season at the very
>earliest. I hope for your sake I'm wrong, but all you
>Antipodean listers shouldn't get too excited just yet.
>
>Ed Naylor
>Liverpool John Moores University
>United Kingdom

yeah you're right Ed....

we're gonna start writing at the end of Jan...i can't see us going to
Australlia AGAIN..
I'm well fucked off about it but if we start up touring again ,you hear
another album for bloody
ages......



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From: Darren Emerson <d@spoonman.demon.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 15:42:22 +0000
Subject: Re: Darren Diggers of '96

>>I'm sure Darren could take a few digs, but he doesn't seem to get any
>
>Maybe I'm being a little too subtle then. Lemme know.
>
>Tom

now everyone!!!!just coz you've read this,.... don't get any ideas...


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From: Darren Emerson <d@spoonman.demon.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 15:42:33 +0000
Subject: re: gigs

>Firstly, an introduction is I guess is in order as this is my first post...
>hi everyone! (I'm laura). My *first* question is, when are Underworld doing
>another American tour in cities other than New York and San Fran? It seems
>due their lack of tour stops, that they don't take well to us Yanks (or us
>non-New Yorkers/West Coast people). maybe it's just me...
>
>-laura

of course we like you yanks.....we just find it hard to tour for a long
time Laura..
We're homeboys really...and we start goin a bit bonkers after being away
for a long
period of time.

I'm sure we're gonna hit the U.S on our next assult......but first things
first..new album.


From: Darren Emerson <d@spoonman.demon.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 16:55:13 +0000
Subject: Re: Football Italia

>Nick Abbott wrote:
>>
>> Is it true that the music to Channel 4's football Italia TV show was done
>> by Underworld / Tomato??
>
>I have the CD single (somewhere), It's credited to 'Acorn Arts II', but
>I don't remember any Underworld connections.
>
>The mixes are all very 'progressive house', and the channel 4 version is
>not included, despite what the sticker on the cover says.
>
>Will investigate futher...
>
>- Andy Robinson

yesah...my mate Mark wrote the music...he lives just round the corner



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From: Darren Emerson <d@spoonman.demon.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 16:55:09 +0000
Subject: Re: gigs

>What about at this third Tribal Gathering thing at Alexandra Palace. There
>were rumours in the music press that Universe were planning a great big new
>years eve bash at the ally pally along the same lines as Tribal and Big
>Love.
>Have Underworld not been approached about this???
>
>Come to think of it, does anyone know anymore details on this???
>
>>Darren Emerson (gosh!) wrote:
>>
>>> I'm sure we're gonna hit the U.S on our next assult......but first things
>>> first..new album.
>>
>>What? No triumphant one-off at Brixton Academy this Christmas?
>>
>>Come to think of it where's the live album we were promised 3 years ago
>>then?
>>
>>Actually I'd heard from some bloke in the pub that you were playing at
>>the re-opening of Hollywoods...
>>
>>- Andy Robinson

No gig at Christmas I'm afraid...
No live album ...sorry.....
and definatly no Hollywoods....they did approach me but I think they need
more of a handbag dj.

[Scott Warner]

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From: Darren Emerson <d@spoonman.demon.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 08:11:34 +0000
Subject: Re: Future Music

>I've just read the interview with Rick & Karl in Future Music. Not bad, but
>some bits in it seem to have been nicked from other interviews. And it's a
>pity they didn't go into greater detail about how they do the live thing,
>but it was nice to see an equipment list to get an idea how those mad
>sounds are created. I wouldn't mind getting hold of that OSC Oscar (wanna
>swap for a Roland System 100?)

Actually,we didn't even do the interview with them....
they took snippets of other old interveiews..
which is a shame coz a lot of things have changed since
the dubnobass days.
we all have our own studios not just one for starters.
still it was still ok to read.

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From: Darren Emerson <d@spoonman.demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 14:59:56 +0000
Subject: Re: NME - load of b******s

>Just got hold of NME (for the free tape) and they've published
>a letter from some bloke slagging Ben Wilmott's criticism of
>Underworld's performance at Big Love (with the almost amusing
>title of Emerson, Hate and Calmer). Ben Willmott then completely
>arses up by saying that all UW's music sounds the same. What a wanker.
>Just shows you how much he really listens to it, dunnit?

Sounds quite funny!!!he's such a knob you've gotta laugh at him.



>On a lighter note, there's also a story that the Smurfs are in
>negotiations to do a cover of Born Slippy...Born Smurfy,
>anyone? (aaarrrgghhh!)


No we should get Ben Willmot to do a mix of it.

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From: Darren Emerson <d@spoonman.demon.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 09:35:03 +0000
Subject: oi tom

tom irwin.............you're a fuckin fruitcake m8

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From: Tom Irwin <t.irwin@udcf.gla.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 10:08:56 +0100
Subject: Re: oi tom

>tom irwin.............you're a fuckin fruitcake m8

why thank you kindly darren emerson.....love you to bits m25
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From: Ben Willmot <d@spoonman.demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 18:24:02 +0000
Subject: Re: More on Pearls Girl re-issue

>Geoffrey Elgey wrote about disc 1 of the Pearls Girl re-issue:
>> Errm, isn't this a bit redundant? What's the point of having a re-issue that
>> contains the same tracks from the original release?
>
>Nobody bought it the first time! Seriously, since the huge chart success
>of 'Born Slippy .NUXX' here, an excellent single that was deemed too odd
>to play by the powers that be (Radio 1 playlist, Top of The Pops etc.)
>first time out, will now reach a much wider audience. Personally I'm
>glad on 2 counts...
>1. Those of us who want to buy all UW tracks don't have to fork out for
>2 CDs if we don't want to, it would have been easy to swap 'oich oich'
>and 'puppies' over and force us completeists to but 2 CDs. I'm sure if
>UW were on a bigger label, they would be forced to do this sort of thing
>to maximise sales.
>2. It is proof (as if proof were needed) that Underworld are not
>'selling out' by putting out cheesy remixes - since there was nothing
>wrong with this disc when UW were not top 10 fodder, theres still
>nothing wrong with it now!

hear hear.........actually, I was a bit dubious about putting Pearl's
Girl again....but as you say I think it's gonna hit a wider audience,
which isn't a bad thing...unless you're Ben Willmot...
has anyone seen the new NME interview Rick and I done????
Couldn't stop Rick talking that day

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From: Ben Willmot <d@spoonman.demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 18:24:14 +0000
Subject: Re: Pearls Girl re-issue

>> But good to see UW have not asked anyone else to
>> mix these tracks, their own mixes are so much better.
>Agreed, but when I asked Dirtylist about the Reece mixes, the only reply
>I had were that his were better!
>
>I guess you can't please everyone all of the time...
>
>- Andy R.

RESPECT TO ANDY R!!!!!!!!

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From: Darren Emerson <d@spoonman.demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 18:23:58 +0000
Subject: Re: oi tom

>Darren Emerson wrote:
>>
>> tom irwin.............you're a fuckin fruitcake m8
>
>what the fuck did he do?
>
>--
>Vorsprung durch Technik Industria Grafica
>standard.@iri.su.se
> affiliated with nordisk media analys public limited

well he is though....ain't ya tom?

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From: Tom Irwin <t.irwin@udcf.gla.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 22:29:22 GMT
Subject: Re: oi tom

>well he is though....ain't ya tom?

6 oz butter 6 oz castor sugar
3 large free range eggs 6 oz plain flour
1/2 tsp baking powder 2 oz ground almonds
4 oz stoned cherries

yum that darren

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From: Darren Emerson <d@spoonman.demon.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 12:24:37 +0000
Subject: mid week chart posistion

mid week chart posistion is 22.....

too many tunes out this week to get a high posistion i reacon.



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From: Darren Emerson <d@spoonman.demon.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 12:24:32 +0000
Subject: Re: mixes

>Hi folks - new to this list, so this has probably been covered before, but
>does anyone have a list on the remixes the boys have done? Future ones?

wish I could remeber all the mixes we've done..


gonna be doin a depeche mode mix soon..
I done a Bjork mix a couple of weeks ago.

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From: Darren Emerson <d@spoonman.demon.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 12:24:27 +0000
Subject: Re: oi space dj

>space dj darren...........'tin there'....fuckin excellent m8.
>
>u been listenin to jamie bissmire?
> or has e been listenin to you?
> th_nkz

'Fraid jamie and ben got nuttin to do with it mon...thanks though !!

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From: Darren Emerson <d@spoonman.demon.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 13:15:10 +0000
Subject: Re: mid week chart posistion

>>mid week chart posistion is 22.....
>>too many tunes out this week to get a high posistion i reacon.
>
>suppose you guys'll just have to get back to making music then.
>crap for yous good for us.

more crap for the label...we don't care s'much

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From: Darren Emerson <d@spoonman.demon.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:35:56 +0000
Subject: Re: mixes

>Nick Abbott wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >bet this list is overcrowded people who got off to
>> >master & servant back in 1985. at least, they got
>> >me interested in samplers and electronics in the first
>> >place. actually a friend of mine thought the uw sound
>> >kind of reminded her of depeche...

>ok ok ok nick. don't take it so personal with caps et al.
>i guess violator wasn't necessarily a bad album per se,
>but with everything else going on around that time, it sounds
>like the 80s never ended... it's only that 909 in enjoy the
>silence that makes it somewhat contemporary. what i'm trying
>to say is that... ermm.. depeche is crap and that's my policy
>of truth? :> they start to remind me of u2.

I'm sorry but I think Violator was a great album.
Tim Simenon has produced this so it has some scratchin and
nice funkee loops.
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From: Darren Emerson <d@spoonman.demon.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 10:43:07 +0000
Subject: Internet Phone

has anyone checked out the Internet Phone yet????????
It's great....

pc and mac....here's the www page.
http://www.vocaltec.com/homep.htm

we could start an Underworld Chat room.....

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From: Darren Emerson <d@spoonman.demon.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 15:06:18 +0000
Subject: bits and bobs

if people are interested in merchandise,
could you just give me your email address's please.
then I'll pass them onto the girl at our fan club/merchandise place/

also ..i haven't forgot about ther dirtylist tshirt...
anyone have any ideas what the want to see on it?????

i;m gonna be sorting it out soon at tomato


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From: Darren Emerson <d@spoonman.demon.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 19:15:06 +0000
Subject: t-shirt

I'm gonna have to charge something for the t-shirt....
but it's not gonna be a money maker for me...
I'm just gonna charge cost price.

I'll most probably get Julia(merchandise girl)
to send them out ...

Just a little pressie for Chritmas really.We're also
getting a newsletter together ...just to let people know wots goin on.

I'll most probably post it on ere once it's done..


i thang u

[Scott Warner]

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From: Darren Emerson <d@spoonman.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 23:54:31 +0000
Subject: hey you!

oi ya fackers

keep it tidy



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From: Darren Emerson <d@spoonman.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 23:59:08 +0000
Subject: [none]

depeche mode is sounding pretty good.

..

i'm doin a Everything but the girl mix now.
an underwater mix.


big brother is watching you

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From: Darren Emerson <d@spoonman.demon.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 13:31:26 +0000
Subject: Re: darren and dubnobass

>I was thinking over the weekend whilst listening to a few tunes about
>what I said on darrens input into dubnobass.
>
>So he doesn't appear on the writing credits but if you listen to his
>mixes of Eagles Prey and Gat Decor then it's full on hous music (alright
>progressive house) not a million miles away from dubnobass. Did anyone
>ever hear darren DJing at this time (three/four years ago). Was he any
>good? what was he playing? Maybe he did have a far bigger input into the
>'sound' of the first album than I suspected.
>------------------------
>Duncan Pike
>duncanp@northcroft.co.uk
>--------------------------------------------------------------------
>Opinions above, expressed or implicit, are my personal opinions only
>and not necessarily those of my employer.
>--------------------------------------------------------------------

well basically...i was djin alot.I was working with Rick and Karl
too.They came up with some tunes that needed some of my input.
ie.giving my opinion and making them more dance.
so this is why I produced more of the first album.

the second album,we all worked in our own studios and
i wrote more on the second album as well as producing.

so i hope that answers your questions.

[Scott Warner]

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From: Tom Irwin <t.irwin@udcf.gla.ac.uk>
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 14:05:12 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Born slippy is cool

- -=- yep, but "born slippy rocks" ?????? !!!!!!! that an american thing?

- -=- *thanks* for your *kind words* -=- scott warner -=- <mbx719@west.net> :

>Yep, Tremblay's site has always been very cool.
>Mr. Irwin's also leaves me warm and fuzzy.
>Whomever runs that Netherlands one though has GOT to pull that
>annoying Apple II style flash shit from the beginning of it.
>

- -=- 'warm and fuzzy', eh? have to say, though, that that 'mr.' thingy leaves
me a teensy weensy perplexed: feel like a school teacher or something. most
people call me tom, whiles my best m8 susanne calls me thomas, though she
does agree with darren emerson that im a 'fuckin fruitcake' at times. takes
one to know one, i say, and darren emerson knows one, i can say: krazy krazy
krazy. do you like my postcard from 'hell'? made it myself.

- -=- tremblay, jp to his good aquaintances, and currently 'how to laugh at
the underwater underdog' (but then he changes his name every other day, dunt
ee) calls me all sorts of fruitcake tomboy things at times. now he is an
excellent m8. in fact it was him told me what that 'm8' thing darren uses
means, cos i was totally at a loss, m25, haha, fuckin internet infant
fruitcake me. his

***totally UNofficial so don't pester him with tell darren
i fancy him and rick has magic specs whered he get them and
that karl hes a fuckin fruitcake hmm underworld i loooooove
you siGHte***

is indeed a joy to behold. muzik magazine had a nice little picture piece on
it last month, not that i'm recommending you buy muzik magazine you understand.

- -=- peter baars, who runs the netherland site, has been awfy busy lately and
not had much time to get it together; maybe you could ask him to do
something about his 'applecake flash shit ' yourself in a personal
invitation to participate in all this dirty talk we're having here? i'd like
that.

transmitbaby -=-

s/n this time = 4:6 hows that andy?
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From: paninaro <standard.@mail.iri.su.se>
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 00:13:26 -0700
Subject: lifeform detected on #dirtydarren

just wrote to say while im at it you know, that i saw #dirtydarren
(all cred for the lovely name is mine mind you) up and running
the other night. there were 3 people there when it got kind of crowdy.
irc is kind of scary... people there are either psychopaths who rape
their cats or just weird in general. i think i might contribute on
this work to keep the internet sane and perhaps visit regulary...
did i mention that i don't have a cat but a dalmatian? nevermind
keeping a dog is much cheaper than letting some bird inside your house
anyway... i think i lost track of this conversation. what i was going
to say was that in a year or so, i'll learn to use irc and then i can
interact with other people like you're supposed to on the net.

lee, just trying scott's patience.
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From: Interrupt <mbx719@west.net>
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 12:53:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Born slippy is cool

On Sat, 26 Oct 1996, Tom Irwin wrote:

> -=- yep, but "born slippy rocks" ?????? !!!!!!! that an american thing?
>
> -=- *thanks* for your *kind words* -=- scott warner -=- <mbx719@west.net> :

Yes, it certainly is. Anything good in America is deemed to "rock,"
regardless of non-rock content.

Although most American kids just prefer listen to traditional bang yo head
rock. With is something that English music writers ALWAYS miss the point
of. "Oh Americans won't understand this because he's bisexual." "Americans
don't understand Pulp, they're too camp."

Your average American kid couldn't give two shits wether an artist is gay,
screws trees, fondles animals, writes songs about architecture, or solves
the meaning of life in under fourty words. They just want to RAAWWWWWK.
Which is probably why bands like Oasis, Radiohead, and errr, ummm Bush
have done well over here, and bands like Blur, Pulp, and Suede have not.

Personally, I'd throw all of that away for some "Cherry Pie."

scott warner
mbx719@west.net
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From: ArgonTroix@aol.com
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 01:26:54 -0400
Subject: Re: Born slippy is cool

Also having lived in the Euroland (okokokok--it was France, so SUE ME!) and
most of my useless life in the US, I agree with BOTH lee & Scott on this
little subject of Rawking In The U.S O' A. THey're both absolutely right
and I refuse to quote them because I'm drunk on wine and have to go spin a
set now--God help me. I'm in the Oregon desert in a fucking barn using my
lap top/cellular. I've become addicted to the list--this is a sure fucking
sign. Uhhhhhh.....rural kids looking over my shoulder...gotta run
folkks---OH!!! I'm going to spin my Romford Battle Royale tonight-- an hour
of Underworld vs. Jay Trance--guys who wins??? ; )

Loving you all from the west coast---
Troy
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From: its like a whole new lifestyle <tremblay@husc.harvard.edu>
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:31:09 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Pearls Girl re-issue

continued to tom, whoops massive reply...tin there has qualities
reminiscent of stepback, but a bit more "executive-production"
oriented...still that doggerel quality only now its rabid. oddly enough we
can use doggerel in the sense that karl (ifuckwordsup) hyde might and
apply it to doggy-like, or simply follow the lovely oed and run along the
"badly-produced" end of things, hence the scratchy-growling quality at the
top o' things. and "pearls girl" did have "puppies," too. as darren
pointed out oh so long ago before his massive leave of absence for
matters-promotional and whatnot, after initially logging in what seems
like twice a day.

whoo enough of the mutt theme for that single, stepback you slammin
darling

From: i dare not see any further than internal#017 <tremblay@husc.harvard.edu>
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 12:26:07 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Rabbits and bobs

> Darren Emerson wrote:
> >
> > also ..i haven't forgot about ther dirtylist tshirt...
> > anyone have any ideas what the want to see on it?????
> >
> > i;m gonna be sorting it out soon at tomato

erm...something most distinctly non-tshirt appearing. you know, typical
front center small fraction of the shirt image, turnaround to back center
half the shirt image.

and maybe a little stringent on the colours...tomato of late has gotten a
bit questionable when they get lenient with the color palette (see the
asian motif of pearls girl yecccch)

i wonder if this shit has any impact
i wonder if this shirt has any impact
i wonder if this shift has any impact

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Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 14:26:26 -0800
From: uhm... <djpsyche@opus.vcn.bc.ca>
To: dirtylist@west.net, d@spoonman.demon.co.uk
Subject: is Darren that cute? / is Peter out there?

hey there peter,

i got the AMP video, w/ the Underw orld vid's on it...
excellent darlin' i am impressed....
it'll go over well with the freaks that slither down to the netherworld
of the club... my thanks are universal.

wanna make it a regular deal???

p.s.

i never realized how cute you are Darren....did you?!?


psyche

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Date: Fri, 08 Nov 96 14:09:00 GMT
From: Thomas, Martin <THOMASM@stg2wc.igw.bt.co.uk>
To: dirtylist <dirtylist@west.net>
Subject: filthy lucre

Darren flogging fan club material? whatever next? Mind you, I s'pose xmas is
just around the corner and every little helps eh?
I think a puppies t-shirt would be cool - not a huge fan of the tune though
(Scott, don't bother buying it unless you're a saddo completist).
And will you all stop trying to sound like Karl? please!

Martin

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From: Interrupt <mbx719@west.net>
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 08:58:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject: more thought...

After giving more thought to the t-shirt deal, I think it should be
something relatively simple. I like the idea of somebody's back there
to have the t-shirt that's not a t-shirt, but as far as what's on it...
maybe something like the "Born Slippy" shirts.

You know, on the front it could be like "underw orld dirt ylist."

The back of the shirt might have something in the way of artwork a little
more extensive?

How about good quotes from people on the list? Mmmm...like :

"we're not trying to establish world peace!!"

- Duncan

"where the hell is my mail goin?"

- Lee (well, okay, he didn't say that.)

"you're a fucking fruitcake!"

- Darren

Well, maybe those weren't so good but you get the idea.


scott warner
mbx719@west.net

[Scott Warner]

From: "i'm not a weird cartoon animal i don't think" <t.irwin@udcf.gla.ac.uk>
Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 16:58:58 GMT
Subject: i too did just that sir

more scott warner <mbx719@west.net>
thoughts abound with ...

: How about good quotes from people on the list? Mmmm...like :
: "we're not trying to establish world peace!!"
: "where the hell is my mail goin?"
: "you're a fucking fruitcake!"
: Well, maybe those weren't so good but you get the idea.

absolutely scott, like:

a h m g o a n a y
stoap listenin tae
u n d e r w u r l d
noo t h u r in the
* * C H A R T S * *

in a discrete point size
- over to design co sartre sartre and expaninaro for advice -
in a nice fluorescent pink (or green) on plain black
with tiny

"a duncan pike swims with the fishes creation (c. 1996)"

running underneath.
cool tomatimage or 0 on the back
- don't really care that much.
without text,
or "don't stab me in"
if the wordsmiths have to have their wicked way.

roman <uesper00@mcl.ucsb.edu> ...

: "puppies"? is it worth the trouble?

well, not really.
sounds like s l o w e d d o w n d a vid b o w e
a la larfinggnome. which is okay
if ye dinnae wanna danz.
but 'tin there' is definitely danz.
t'other p.g. reissue is worth it for 'cherry pie' alone
(or am i in a muddle here?).

for those who don't know it the

cantrememberthenameofthispiratedfromuwleedsconcert .au

i still have somewheres on my site is well worth a listen
by you lucky wired-for-sound dirtmaggers.
not so good quality cos of the size but taste the speed.
after listening to 'confusion the waitress'
on same i think i might just
jolly-roger the bbc a little bit more cos it's magic.

"bright waters, saltwater" <standard.@mail.iri.su.se> ...

you're a wee bit blurred:
'vorsprung durch technik' predates 'wank-poppers' by a few years
they got it from the telly, lee. audi or bmw (memoverflow)

hi martin t.
noiz to ave yer back. like
'underworld is the opium of the people'
sort of Karl-sound or what?

hi to joe-blow@ic.ac.uk...
do you know my brother ron?

thouroughly recommended:
glenn underground - 'c.u.o. trance' (peacefrog)
(haha! ribbit... woops duncan)
for funktastic jazzzz 'supermarket' musik.
what ya say oh notoriously silent one?
(i guess you're the evelyn glennie mix).
answer the telephone...

relaggs dondoit
when ya wanna cumtoit
relaggs dondoit when ya wanna

tom

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From: hey lookit im a cartoon character from edinburgh <tremblay@husc.harvard.edu>
Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 12:52:38 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: i too did just that sir

this coming in from joeblow@ic.ac.uk...says ronnies doing dandyfine, gave
up law a long time ago...moved onto the london stock exchange until he
looked out upon the floor and rather than see a bunch of wankers on suits
saw a bunch of e-ingesting laddies and lassies and said well im
ron@ic.ac.uk and hey i listen to flock of seagulls, violators a great
album...wearing dirtylist tshirts that arent tshirts (theyre so
unfashionable, shaggy duds) that proudly bear the phrase 'vorsprung durch
technik' in a font reminiscent of something that might read in
collaboration with francoise hardy. the universal or something i do not
know. hit it tomato.

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From: "bright waters, saltwater" <standard.@mail.iri.su.se>
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 01:32:49 -0800
Subject: Re: la la la lee lee lee

Tom Irwin wrote:
>
> thanks lee... don't ask why... just thanks...

what for? we didn't end up in bed last time
i was in london did we? i remember something
about trying to get on a bus home from russell
square... were you that russian sailor?

> please explain something to me?
>
> re: ex-paninaro... i know that was awful so just shut up :>
>
> awful why?

because i) paninaro is synonymous to preppy in northern italy.
actually it comes from the panini sandwiches refering to rich
spoilt kids who hung around panini bars with nothing better
to do, until they started studying at Bocconi or wherever. I think
i-D used to do articles on that... when Milan was big and happening.
AND ii) the pet shop boys (and couple of italo-disco club anthems)
penned a tune named paninaro 7-8 years ago.

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From: Duncan Pike <duncanp@northcroft.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 09:44:13 +0000
Subject: Re: filthy lucre (fwd)

In message <Pine.SOL.3.91.961108084633.9492C-100000@acme.sb.west.net>,
Interrupt <mbx719@west.net> writes
>(Scott, don't bother buying it unless you're a saddo completist).

question, why exactly are completists sad?

possible answer. coz they've got all those tracks that you haven't. ha
ha ha ha ha
- ------------------------
Duncan Pike
duncanp@northcroft.co.uk

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From: "Thomas, Martin" <THOMASM@stg2wc.igw.bt.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 96 09:50:00 GMT
Subject: monkey message

Two things to say to Monkey Boy (or whatever his name is):

1. Don't say "not to be anal", when it's as clear as the sweat droplets on
my fevered brow that you are

2. Keep it up fella! Winding up dirtylisters is as easy as shooting monkeys
in a monkey barrel, but enjoyable for all that.

Two things to say to everyone:

1. Go and buy Daft Punk's Homework as soon as you can. It's the monkey's
nuts (easy big fella...)

2. Merry Christmas, you mad muthas

Martin

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From: "Thomas, Martin" <THOMASM@stg2wc.igw.bt.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 96 13:59:00 GMT
Subject: Duncan biscuits

Sorry about the delay in replying to your Daft Punk question Duncan - I have
only just recovered from a truly horrible Christmas party at Planet
Hollywood, which sapped my spirit so effectively that I swear I saw Delilah
outside singing 'Why Why Why, Sylvester' (da da da da da da da da *da*).
Anyway, I'm better again now, having listened to the first volume of Trade
at no: 11 all the way in on the bus this morning (second disc, natch).
Purism be damned, this is the way to banish the corporate demons after such
a horrid experience. Smile back on face, spring back in step, sauce back in
bottle.

What was I talking about? Oh yeah, Daft Punk. Well, I was a bit jammy there,
cos I stumbled across it at Sister Ray. They had 15 early vinyl copies and I
just happened to walk past the shop when they had one left - no more than
five hours after they'd got this secret batch. They were playing it at the
time too, so I was even luckier. There is good news here and bad news. The
good news is that I can assure you it's worth the wait. It's flipping
gorgeous! The bad news is that you still won't be able to get your hands on
it until January 20 (could be worse though - they were talking about a March
release only a couple of weeks ago).

Sorry to hear you're off - for a while at least. We didn't quite manage
world peace, but dirtylist has got a lot more entertaining of late, and
(pains me though it does to say this) you're one of the reasons why.

Good luck

Martin

[Scott Warner]

All right. All for now. Like I said, a bunch of random shit. But potentially interesting to some of you.

[dubnobasswithme]

Thanks for posting this, Scott! My dirtylist archives are on an old hard drive that I've misplaced at the moment. Fun to reread this stuff!

[//\/\/]

you should find some classic flame-wars! and stalking!

[bas_I_am]

where's threnody?? Kolemite???