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Old 10-20-2007, 04:26 PM
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beautiful burnout
apart from being the nickname of janie......... is a most fuckin awesome tune......it makes me cry its so lovely........
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Old 10-20-2007, 05:11 PM
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Re: beautiful burnout
I rate Biro the Leggy higher. A shame that there is just the 96 kbps version.

Honestly, when I heard the album version the first time (from a downloaded version), I though for a moment that all the use of traditional instruments in the beginning (especially at 0:45-1:00) was the watermark...
Also I don't think the bongos blend in particularly well.

I don't think it's an awful song, but Biro the Leggy captured that special atmosphere of the song much better in it's simplicity.
BB on the other hand, with its many, many things going on, tries to much (and fails somehow). Karl repeats the lyrics so often that they almost lose their meaning and effect. The synth stabs are cool for the first time, but after the 20th listen they are just annoying.

Oh my god, I just noticed that I sound like a bad critic that BLD hates so much.
*puts flame-proof vest on*
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Old 10-20-2007, 05:12 PM
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Re: beautiful burnout
speaking of that, allow me to ask one of the stupidest questions ever asked on this forum:

which came first? the track name or the dirty forum nickname?
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Old 10-20-2007, 05:14 PM
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Re: beautiful burnout
The dirty forum name. Which came from the lyrics of Biro the Leggy. Which was an early incarnation of the Beautiful Burnout we have now.
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Old 10-20-2007, 05:16 PM
cacophony
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Re: beautiful burnout
i'd love to hear this early version, particularly after reading your comparison between the two.
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Old 10-20-2007, 05:38 PM
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Re: beautiful burnout
Recently bryantm3 posted a link:
http://www.darktrain.org/dirty/forum...3&postcount=24

It still might sound like a lot work in progress, but for me BB was a missed opportunity to build on that and refine it.
This early version makes me think about trains, sunsets on the beach, used cars, and of course rayray .
BB feels sort of empty, even though it is full with effects... I can't really explain it.
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Old 10-20-2007, 07:31 PM
cacophony
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Re: beautiful burnout
thanks for the link. maybe it's the old "you prefer the one you heard first" syndrome, but i really prefer the direction they went with the OWB version. and the live performance on wednesday gave me goosebumps.
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Old 10-20-2007, 10:47 PM
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Re: beautiful burnout
I really didn't get into this track until I finally heard the OwB version...

Keep in mind though that Biro the Leggy dates back to pre-AHDO and spawned Mo Move. The song has gone through many iterations at Lemonworld...apparently.
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Old 10-21-2007, 02:13 AM
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Re: beautiful burnout
It is (quite evidently) one of my favourite UW tunes ever. I loved it as Biro, I love it even more in its present version. And live, now that it has been perfected (no disrespect to R & K, but they kinda fudged it a bit at Cocoon last year) is absolutely goose-bump-tastic.

I disagree about the bongos. I think it brings a kind of purpose to the song that was missing in the original Biro version. Prior to that, Biro was beautiful but didn't go very far. It would have made a very good ambient track in and of itself, but this has metamorphosed into a dark, brooding, delicious dance track.

My favourite song on the album, and possibly now my second favourite UW song ever, just behind PG.
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Old 10-21-2007, 02:29 AM
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Re: beautiful burnout
It's a good track. But I rate other songs on the album much higher, like 'boy, boy, boy', 'faxed invitation', 'holding the moth' and 'cuddle bunny vs. the celtic villages'.
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