Wishlist - Beaucoup fish deluxe boxset

[negative1]

just taking a stab at what i thought a boxset might be like:


feel free to add your own tracks to it:
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beaucoup fish deluxe v0.2
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1 album remastered
2 preview from XFM radio
3 remixes
4 b-sides and edits
5 live tracks
- from uw.com
- single
- partial gigs
6 DVD videos
- promo
- beacoup fish promo
- live
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Live session at XFM pirate radio 1998
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set time: 31 minutes

overall
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0:23 00:10 - 00:34 intro - kittens
8:11 00:35 - 08:46 cups
4:54 09:38 - 13:54 winjer
4:12 13:55 - 18:10 inst interlude1
2:10 18:20 - 20:14 inst interlude2
1:05 20:39 - 21:44 kittens
7:27 21:45 - 28:55 moaner
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6 tracks
30min

remixes
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1 10:17 Moaner (album version)
2 10:04 Moaner (relentless legs remix)
3 7:37 Moaner (long version)
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25min

4 8:55 King Of Snake (original version)
5 6:54 King Of Snake (dave angel rework)
6 6:01 King Of Snake (dave clark remix)
7 7:30 Kittens (s.m.f.u. - original mix)
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30min

8:13 Push Upstairs (roger s. blue plastic people mix)
4:56 Push Upstairs (adam beyer mix 1)
5:39 Push Upstairs (the large unit)
6:47 Push Upstairs (darren price remix)
4:42 push upstairs (adam beyer mix 2)
5:38 push upstairs (the large unit)
6:43 push upstairs(roger s. narcotic haze dub)
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40min


6:30 jumbo (future shock worlds apart mix edit)
8:12 jumbo (future shock worlds apart mix )
6:02 jumbo (jedis electro dub mix)
6:28 jumbo (jedis sugar hit mix edit)
7:53 jumbo (jedis sugar hit mix)
6:51 jumbo (rob rives&francois k. main dish edit)
8:26 jumbo (rob rives & francois k. main dish)
1:56 jumbo (rob rives & francois k.prelude)
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50min

8:32 king of snake (ashley beedle's save our discos re-edit)
8:34 king of snake (coccolutu remix)
7:58 king of snake (dino lenny remix)
6:57 king of snake (fatboy slim mix)
8:04 king of snake (martin orchestramix)
8:49 king of snake (rick's bungalow mix)
7:32 king of snake (slam remix)
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55min

4:21 bruce lee (buffalo daughter remix)
4:20 bruce lee (dobropet)
8:54 bruce lee (micronauts remix)
6:47 bruce lee (dj hype and dj zinc remix) promo cd only
9:23 cups (salt city orchestra vertical bacon vocal)
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30min

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34 tracks
25 30 40 50 55 30= 55 90 85 = 145 85 = 230 = 3hr50min


b-sides and edits
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4:08 Moaner (short version
4:00 push upstairs (radio edit)
4:34 push upstairs (the full length of it)
7:29 Please Help Me

4:07 jumbo (edit)
3:55 king of snake (barking mix)
3:54 king of snake (straight mate mix)
4:00 king of snake (rick's bungalow mix 7" edit)

2:59 bruce lee (short)
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9 tracks
35min


live tracks from uw.com:
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mama nuxx 5:59
king of snake (spoken word) 6:55

belfort 2001
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push upstairs 11:59
king of snake 10:25

fuji 2001
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push upstairs 6:46
king of snake 12:41
jumbo 8:41
kittens 10:26
bruce lee 11:53

blue mountain 2001
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push upstairs 6:31
cups 7:19
something like a mama 11:06
please help me-cappe ffuno 10:59
king of snake(1) 9:28
king of snake(2) 8:35
bruce lee 8:56

peel sessions 2003
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jumbo 8:26
moaner 8:09
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18 tracks
155min = 2hr35min


i'm sure there would be some new demos and unreleased tracks
added in there also.


later
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[khouri]

The thing I want most is the 98 gig from the Mayan in downtown LA, one of three Beaucoup Fish road tests and the first UW show I ever saw. I met Rick after the Dubno show in London and told him I was at that gig in LA and he looked at me very seriously and said, "That was a good show." If you've heard the bootleg, you know the arrangements were wonderful that night, and you hear Push, Snake, Cups and Jumbo in primordial form, not to mention FIVE POINTS, the most frustratingly unreleased UW jam of all time, surely.

I really don't want any of the remixes by other artists. Not into it at all. I want as much pure Underworld as they can fit on those discs.

[Troy McClure]

Showcasing other remixers wouldn't be my first choice either even though there were some good ones from that period.

As for any potential studio demo tracks I'd like:

--Cappe Ffuno
--The part of King of Snake they used when they did really long live jams...I think it's referred to as 'Bungalow'
--Please Help Me jams
--Five Points

And I'd love to hear anything from the Underworld & U2 sessions.

Jason

[purlieu]

Would be good to get Please Help Me, Barking Mix, Dobropet, Relentless Legs and The Large Unit all together but otherwise it's definitely short on already-released bonus material. Wouldn't be surprised if, should the album get released, it was just the 2-disc special edition with those and some unreleased pieces, rather than a 4/5 disc deluxe box.

[mark3]

Originally Posted by Troy McClure

... And I'd love to hear anything from the Underworld & U2 sessions. Jason

There's also the possibility that U2 release a 20th anniversary edition of 'Pop' which they have done with other albums - giving us a chance to hear the Mofo mix(es).
If they do, that would be in 2017.

[pandamagic]

I guess there's no reason why a hypothetical box set need only include the strictly Beaucoup Fish tracks/jams from underworldlive.com site. The skyscraper / air towel / stagger (etc) jams are all from 2000 (as far as I know) and therefor of the BF era. So it might be a good idea to include everything from 99 - 2001 in this thread, including the "cowgirl live" single with the bedrock/futureshock mixes.

[holden]

Originally Posted by Troy McClure

Showcasing other remixers wouldn't be my first choice either even though there were some good ones from that period.

As for any potential studio demo tracks I'd like:

--Cappe Ffuno
--The part of King of Snake they used when they did really long live jams...I think it's referred to as 'Bungalow'
--Please Help Me jams
--Five Points



Jason

This. My favorite era of UW. Have all the remixes, radio shows, live improvs. I'd love studio versions of the above UW jams, but see no reason for remastered remixes. Rarely are they very memorable, though I guess you could argue that this era was the last time when remixers really worked with the track elements, rather than taking a vocal sample and one loop to put on top of their own crap production, which is sadly the case today.

As I mentioned in the Stiti thread, I'm most keen to hear outtakes from the BF sessions. Just because we don't know about them doesn't mean they don't exist... Case in point, STITI boxset disc 3.

There are accounts that the BF recording sessions were tense, with mixes shared over DAT if not in person. Promises of many embryonic versions! Would love to have works in progress and tracks like the above that never saw official release, especially Cappe Ffuno

[khouri]

I don't see the value in compiling stuff that's already been released on CD, since we have it in high quality already. But the UWlive jams would be rad, along with the DVD exclusive music from Everything Everything like Kittens, Rowla, Moaner, Dark Train and everything else from the ROM portion.

But aside from the live show i mentioned, I'd love to hear early versions of all the BF tracks. The Second Toughest and Dubno releases showed us that there's potentially loads of stuff we've not only never heard, but even never heard OF.

[marcolphus]

Originally Posted by purlieu

Would be good to get Please Help Me, Barking Mix, Dobropet, Relentless Legs and The Large Unit all together but otherwise it's definitely short on already-released bonus material. Wouldn't be surprised if, should the album get released, it was just the 2-disc special edition with those and some unreleased pieces, rather than a 4/5 disc deluxe box.

Add King of Snake (rick's bungalow mix) 8:49 and you have all those tracks.

[negative1]

Originally Posted by khouri

I really don't want any of the remixes by other artists. Not into it at all. I want as much pure Underworld as they can fit on those discs.

that might have been true for their earlier mixes.

however, at this point, the ones they did were all fairly mundane, and basically just extending the tracks which was really boring.

all the other remixers had a great time doing their mixes.

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underworld used to do radical mixes on their own and on other peoples work,
but all that seemed to stop a long time ago.

Originally Posted by khouri

I don't see the value in compiling stuff that's already been released on CD, since we have it in high quality already. But the UWlive jams would be rad, along with the DVD exclusive music from Everything Everything like Kittens, Rowla, Moaner, Dark Train and everything else from the ROM portion.

except some are out of print, some are promos, and not everyone wants to hunt down all those singles..

which is one of the points of compiling them for a boxset.

later
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