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Originally Posted by BrotherLovesDub
this scenario has only come up now that there's a scary black man in office. right wing assholes are desperate to create some major event to get him out of his second term. there's no way a state will secede and this type of scare mongering 'CIVIL WAR II' is 100% about being afraid of a black man in power. it's only republicans talking about it.
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Yeah I see where you're coming from and i share your frustration. The fact that Rick Perry is considered a heavyweight republican candidate is frightening in and of itself. I've never been more revolted by anything in politics as I was the republican condescension towards Obama after he was elected. this whole attitude of "not my president, maybe yours" is 4 year old emotions that should stay with 4 year olds.
But I think we're beyond that now. There are scarier boogie men than obama's race even for racist fucks like rick perry.
So now secession movements are coming from a completely different place. The new boogie man is that 10% of the country owns 90% of its stocks, bonds, and assets. Campaign finance is reaching 8 figures per candidate and the majority of which come from corporate sponsors. People are worn out on the war on terror and the war on drugs, both of which are increasingly less representative of the people. So now Texas and Utah are proposing bills to ban TSA pat downs. Utah proposed a bill to make gold coins legal tender. Vermont just passed a single payer health care system in spite of Obamacare. We'll see several states "opt out" of the bill. And california can tell us all about how the federal government treated its citizens when they legalized medical marijuana.
So its time to divorce secession from race.
But again, its not going to happen because no state can survive without the federal government. I mean if you want to be like sean hannity and complain about the welfare state and the entitlement culture, lets talk about how the federal government has made it so every state is basically on its own welfare program, aside from a few rich, liberal states.
here's what Obama means: the federal government can't or won't be changed and we don't know why. this is beyond frightening because this means it no longer represents the people.
This is the federal government of today.
TSA pat downs at Proms in New Mexico High Schools, mandated by a federal judge
NSA agents interrogating a junior high kid at school for some hypothetical comment he made on facebook regarding obama's assasination.
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Department Of Education sending local swat team to break down a door of someone they said was guilty of student loan fraud. (IE the fraud of not paying it back).
Its beyond stupid, and if federal elections can't change things, then local governments will have no choice but to step in. But because they are so dependent on the federal government, they will never secede, as much as they will pass token bills.
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But I'm telling you martial law will come from civil unrest or a terrorist strike. So the question isn't will secession cause martial law, the question is will martial law cause secession?