[holden]

I dunno - they've had some fine moments in the last few years, some with vocals. "Believe" and "get Yourself High", even "Push the Button" were fine. But when you re-do it with "Do it Again", push some Sesame-Street rap crap on "The Salmon Dance" and try to out-Coyle "Golden Path" with "Battle Scars", it's clearly derivative. Time for the Brothers to do waht they did for the first 4 albums - set the step, not retread it!

And even if they don't create something brand new with "Further", their instrumental tracks have rarely disappointed with at least bringing crazy samples and excellent hooks to the table. So, if it's a driving mix of Chems by the numbers, that'd still be fine by me.