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negative1 10-05-2008 08:29 PM

[new tracks] -> _unreleased_dubnobasswithmyheadman_era_
 
alright i know there's a lot of talk in the collectors
thread..

but we should move it over here..
you never know what will turn up right?

big thanks to deckard236 for releasing the
tracks to us..

alright, any more thoughts here?

later
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negative1 10-05-2008 08:31 PM

Re: [new tracks] -> _unreleased_dubnobasswithmyheadman_era_
 
for those wondering
i'm referring to the tracks:
===================
1 Can U Feel Me
2 Big Meat Show
3 Organ

they are all very cool, and whether
they should have stayed on the album or
not is interesting to think about...

it's interesting to hear them in the context of the album,
and to think about the tracklisting..

underworld - dubnobasswithmyheadman 9/20/93 (prototype)
-----------------------------------------------------------
Dirty Epic 9:58
Jamscraper 8:54 -> same as cd-single
Big Meat Show 6:43
MMM Skyscraper I Love You 13:01
Organ 6:19
River of Bass 9:06 -> longer version
Dark And Long 7:28
Dirty Fuzz 9:59 -> Dirty Epic (Dirty Guitar Mix)
Can U Feel Me 4:25
Goodbye Mother Earth 7:07 -> mother earth or m.e.
=====================
of course the whole album would have sounded different,
and as an exercise, put the tracks together and listen
to them that way..

by the way, if you are are wondering where to get these from,
you might Really wanT to go liSten fuRther really fast to find them..

later
-1

dubman 10-05-2008 09:17 PM

Re: [new tracks] -> _unreleased_dubnobasswithmyheadman_era_
 
...

what

khouri 10-05-2008 09:21 PM

Re: [new tracks] -> _unreleased_dubnobasswithmyheadman_era_
 
It's really incredible, this. I mean, to follow a band so closely for a decade and more and still have something like this turn up. It's just wild that there's still more unheard Underworld music out there -- completed songs, even.

dubman 10-05-2008 09:48 PM

Re: [new tracks] -> _unreleased_dubnobasswithmyheadman_era_
 
yeah i should clarify that i'm not confused about whats happening, just that i'm pretty goddamn shocked about it.
converting to wav now.

edit: now this is interesting. if they were always on the album, would we somehow think of them better or worse than if we hadnt heard them 15 years after the album release?
they sound pretty... bad to me, aside from organ, which is okay. but had they been on the album, would these be familiar semi-classics instead?
hmm.

edit2: okay i'm starting to like them, but still dont feel anywhere near up to par with anything from dubno... cept M.E.

nosajmunson 10-05-2008 10:08 PM

Re: [new tracks] -> _unreleased_dubnobasswithmyheadman_era_
 
What's the best way to play FLAC files in Windows? Anyone know of any?
Or any good converters?
Anxious to hear these, but I don't have a way to play them.

-J

gambit 10-05-2008 10:10 PM

Re: [new tracks] -> _unreleased_dubnobasswithmyheadman_era_
 
Um, where can I find these tracks???????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???

dubman 10-05-2008 10:14 PM

Re: [new tracks] -> _unreleased_dubnobasswithmyheadman_era_
 
raj's post contains valuable information regarding the whereabouts

grady 10-05-2008 10:36 PM

Re: [new tracks] -> _unreleased_dubnobasswithmyheadman_era_
 
If these are dubnobass era leftovers and outtakes I can only imagine what might be laying about from the STITI era, but that is a pipe dream at this point as we've been bestowed with quite a luxury thanks to Deckard236.

I'm a bit uncertain about these tracks at the moment. It's funny because at times they sound so foreign but very familiar. You can hear little sounds and tweaks going on that would appear in other forms and on other tracks elsewhere.

negative1 10-05-2008 10:41 PM

Re: [new tracks] -> _unreleased_dubnobasswithmyheadman_era_
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nosajmunson (Post 103277)
What's the best way to play FLAC files in Windows? Anyone know of any?
Or any good converters?
Anxious to hear these, but I don't have a way to play them.

-J

i use the FLAC front end,
http://members.home.nl/w.speek/flac.html
which is included with the executable below..


http://flac.sourceforge.net/download.html

later
-1

negative1 10-05-2008 10:43 PM

Re: [new tracks] -> _unreleased_dubnobasswithmyheadman_era_
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dubman (Post 103280)
raj's post contains valuable information regarding the whereabouts

yeah, check out the hinted words (Big Letters)..

hint, hint... Remember To Select the Right words....

later
-1

TheBang 10-05-2008 11:50 PM

Re: [new tracks] -> _unreleased_dubnobasswithmyheadman_era_
 
For Mac users, I use Cog or Play to play back FLAC. Use Max or xACT to convert to other audio formats.

khouri 10-06-2008 12:37 AM

Re: [new tracks] -> _unreleased_dubnobasswithmyheadman_era_
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dubman (Post 103276)
now this is interesting. if they were always on the album, would we somehow think of them better or worse than if we hadnt heard them 15 years after the album release?
they sound pretty... bad to me, aside from organ, which is okay. but had they been on the album, would these be familiar semi-classics instead?
hmm.

I think at worst, these songs would have been regarded as low points of the album, much like Push Downstairs, Air Towel, Ess Gee and other such unpopular album tracks. Every Underworld album comes with one or two non-classics, with the possible exception of Dubnobasswithmyheadman.

I suspect the guys knew what they had created and knew the strengths and weaknesses of each component, and put out the best possible collection of songs they could.

Troy McClure 10-06-2008 01:02 AM

Re: [new tracks] -> _unreleased_dubnobasswithmyheadman_era_
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnymetropolis (Post 103288)
I think at worst, these songs would have been regarded as low points of the album, much like Push Downstairs, Air Towel, Ess Gee and other such unpopular album tracks. Every Underworld album comes with one or two non-classics, with the possible exception of Dubnobasswithmyheadman.

I suspect the guys knew what they had created and knew the strengths and weaknesses of each component, and put out the best possible collection of songs they could.

Air Towel as the low point of STITI?....them's fighting words ;)

---Jason

dubman 10-06-2008 01:14 AM

Re: [new tracks] -> _unreleased_dubnobasswithmyheadman_era_
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Troy McClure (Post 103290)
Air Towel as the low point of STITI?....them's fighting words ;)

---Jason

yeah air towel is fucking great.
stiti is the only album that doesnt even *have* a low point.

Yannick 10-06-2008 01:39 AM

Re: [new tracks] -> _unreleased_dubnobasswithmyheadman_era_
 
I love low point! real close to the floor point and painted ;)

DwarfeD 10-06-2008 05:22 AM

Re: [new tracks] -> _unreleased_dubnobasswithmyheadman_era_
 
This is pretty cool to see these new old tracks showing up. I guess I like 'Big Meat Show' the most, especially those piano and guitar parts. 'Can U Feel Me' is too much MK1-like, those other two fit way more in the style they presented on Dubnobasswithmyheadman.
Guess those tracks will get a high rotation next weeks on the iPod...

stimpee 10-06-2008 05:35 AM

Re: [new tracks] -> _unreleased_dubnobasswithmyheadman_era_
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nosajmunson (Post 103277)
What's the best way to play FLAC files in Windows? Anyone know of any?
Or any good converters?
Anxious to hear these, but I don't have a way to play them.

-J

Starting with Winamp 5.5, it can play FLAC files by default.

stimpee 10-06-2008 05:37 AM

Re: [new tracks] -> _unreleased_dubnobasswithmyheadman_era_
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBang (Post 103286)
For Mac users, I use Cog or Play to play back FLAC. Use Max or xACT to convert to other audio formats.

No need to convert if you just use Fluke to make iTunes play your FLAC files.

holden 10-06-2008 06:12 AM

Re: [new tracks] -> _unreleased_dubnobasswithmyheadman_era_
 
Sweet baby James! What a surprise to see this come out of seemingly nowhere! Obtaining now.
(i hope these aren't tooo much in the vein of those Unreleased Demos circa 1990-91, although even in those, there were a few riffs that made it to Dubno)

negative1 10-06-2008 06:55 AM

Re: [new tracks] -> _unreleased_dubnobasswithmyheadman_era_
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DwarfeD (Post 103293)
This is pretty cool to see these new old tracks showing up. I guess I like 'Big Meat Show' the most, especially those piano and guitar parts. 'Can U Feel Me' is too much MK1-like, those other two fit way more in the style they presented on Dubnobasswithmyheadman.
Guess those tracks will get a high rotation next weeks on the iPod...

i agree...
i've been listening a lot too 'big meat show'...

they're on a loop since yesterday....fascinating..

later
-1

negative1 10-06-2008 06:57 AM

Re: [new tracks] -> _unreleased_dubnobasswithmyheadman_era_
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by negative1 (Post 103273)
for those wondering

underworld - dubnobasswithmyheadman 9/20/93 (prototype)
-----------------------------------------------------------
Dirty Epic 9:58
Jamscraper 8:54 -> same as cd-single
Big Meat Show 6:43
MMM Skyscraper I Love You 13:01
Organ 6:19
River of Bass 9:06 -> longer version
Dark And Long 7:28
Dirty Fuzz 9:59 -> Dirty Epic (Dirty Guitar Mix)
Can U Feel Me 4:25
Goodbye Mother Earth 7:07
=====================
of course the whole album would have sounded different,
and as an exercise, put the tracks together and listen
to them that way..

of course, as pointed out, this would be too long
to fit on a cd...

but that doesn't stop us from putting together
a playlist, etc..

later
-1

DaddyAdv 10-06-2008 08:01 AM

Re: [new tracks] -> _unreleased_dubnobasswithmyheadman_era_
 
Nice surprise, thx for putting it up!

After a first quick listen, I heard:
- the opening bits of "Tongue" throughout "Big Meat Show"
- the opening sequence of "Organ" is quite similar (higher pitch) to the one in "Lemon Interrupt - Eclipse (remix)" in the recent broadcast

Guess it's mostly leftover from the Lemon Interrupt times.

Mike 10-06-2008 08:44 AM

Re: [new tracks] -> _unreleased_dubnobasswithmyheadman_era_
 
Boring :)

Hehe only kidding, not sure im gonna be listening much to Organ, but i love Mig Meat. Brillo.

Georg. 10-06-2008 08:48 AM

Re: [new tracks] -> _unreleased_dubnobasswithmyheadman_era_
 
Could someone please help out those that can't access the RTSR tracker (like me, I am using a shared computer and I am not allowed to install any programs) with a link to rapidshare or megaupload?

Many thanks!

big screen satellite 10-06-2008 08:53 AM

Re: [new tracks] -> _unreleased_dubnobasswithmyheadman_era_
 
i don't think we realize how important this find is.... this is unbelievable considering these have been hidden from us for so long - and never even mentioned or known about until now...

i'm very surprised by the fact this has not surfaced until now, but then again - there are probably more things like this out there - at least tracks that have been sent out to test reactions etc - and considering uw had supposedly 180 tracks around the RRP releases this is potentially good news for future 'unheard gems' being released to us...

i'd be interested to see if anything else surfaces...

anyway thanks for sharing its like the holy grail - we didn't even know existed!!!

negative1 10-06-2008 09:21 AM

Re: [new tracks] -> _unreleased_dubnobasswithmyheadman_era_
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike (Post 103308)
Boring :)

Hehe only kidding, not sure im gonna be listening much to Organ, but i love Mig Meat. Brillo.

mig meat? something from the soviet era? heh heh...

but i agree, big meat show is really cool..

later
-1

JAE 10-06-2008 09:41 AM

Re: [new tracks] -> _unreleased_dubnobasswithmyheadman_era_
 
Sorry for asking but where o where can i found these tracks :confused:

xolbe2 10-06-2008 09:42 AM

Re: [new tracks] -> _unreleased_dubnobasswithmyheadman_era_
 
Can U Feel Me = End of MMM...Skyscraper...

TheBang 10-06-2008 10:20 AM

Re: [new tracks] -> _unreleased_dubnobasswithmyheadman_era_
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stimpee (Post 103295)
No need to convert if you just use Fluke to make iTunes play your FLAC files.

Thanks for that, stimpee. I've been waiting for something like that for years, but had no idea something had come out.

holden 10-06-2008 10:41 AM

Re: [new tracks] -> _unreleased_dubnobasswithmyheadman_era_
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JAE (Post 103314)
Sorry for asking but where o where can i found these tracks :confused:

http://www.darktrain.org/dirty/forum...highlight=RTSR
It's a nice place! With good peoples.

stimpee 10-06-2008 10:54 AM

Re: [new tracks] -> _unreleased_dubnobasswithmyheadman_era_
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Georg. (Post 103309)
Could someone please help out those that can't access the RTSR tracker (like me, I am using a shared computer and I am not allowed to install any programs) with a link to rapidshare or megaupload?

Many thanks!

Please take this to the RTSR board, or take it private. The dirty forums do not distribute UW stuff.

dubman 10-06-2008 10:55 AM

Re: [new tracks] -> _unreleased_dubnobasswithmyheadman_era_
 
*unless it was given away on uwlive at any point.

JAE 10-06-2008 11:24 AM

Re: [new tracks] -> _unreleased_dubnobasswithmyheadman_era_
 
i surf around but i still see no unreleased dubnobasswithmyheadman tracks/link/whatever
time for me for glasses or am i really 2 blond 2 see

joethelion 10-06-2008 11:56 AM

Re: [new tracks] -> _unreleased_dubnobasswithmyheadman_era_
 
ok

first of all - "Airtowel" and "Push Downstairs" are NOT the low points of either of the aforementioned album

and secondly OH WOW I haven't even had a chance to listen to the tracks yet... but damn!

I mean - think about it... these songs have NEVER been mentioned or hinted at (towards their existence)

...what about all those other mentioned tracks, that have remained unheard?

...and I really am anxious to hear what R&K have to say about these songs suddenly showing up? Which reminds me... I don't think they ever commented on those MK1* demo's either

*although, I don't really think that those should really be considered as MK1 demo's - as not only is "M.E." amongst them - there are also flourishes here and there that eventually were in some early UW MKII/ Lemon Interrupt/ Steppin' Razor remixes (if memory serves me... Honestly, I didn't care for the demo tracks that much, and haven't listened to them for ages)

...waiting impatiently to finally hear these songs....

joethelion 10-06-2008 12:19 PM

Re: [new tracks] -> _unreleased_dubnobasswithmyheadman_era_
 
wowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowow!!!!!!!!!!!!


ok so some responses after hearing the tracks for the first time->

sure, "Can You Feel Me" definitely sounds a bit MK1-ish, and probably wouldn't have fit well amongst the other tracks on the album. But there are definitely bits here and there that REALLY remind me of early Steppin Razor & Lemon Interrupt mixes, which unfortunately - I can't go back and double check which ones, b/c I lost most/all of my remixes from that era when my old computer died :( -> some of the guitar also sounds familiar, like right after Karl says "can you feel me" for the first time... maybe it was in "tongue" (but back in the mix?)

...and that "boop boop boop" sound at the beginning sounds almost exactly like the intro to the Steppin Razor remix of "Thrill Me" just maybe at a slightly different tempo. (No - not the "Steppin Razor Ambient Mix" -> I mean just the "Steppin Razor Mix")

"Big Meat Show" -> it really sounds like a combination of "The Hump" (the growly noises) one of the remixes of "Human Behaviour" (I can't remember which one), bits of "Skyscraper", there's also (obviously) some of the intro of "Tongue" in there too.

"Organ" -> definitely some similarities to "Eclipse" on the intro... and some bits here and there remind me of "Surfboy" although - it seems to be the most 'unique' amongst these 'new' songs, and could have probably fit onto the final version of "Dubno..." the easiest. Although, in all honesty, I think it might work better if it was edited down a little bit.

is it just me - or do these tracks seem to have more 'real' instruments on them than the other 'dubno' tracks? Like, there seems to be noticeably more live bass (or at least what sounds like a bass guitar) on them than other stuff? And 'normal' guitar as well.

also - I'm really intrigued as to how the long version of "River of Bass" sounds....

[EDIT]
um guys....
so I just tracked down my copy of the "MK1 Demo Tape" and what did I find... "Feel Me" but it's a 4 minute version, not 4:25
which makes me wonder -> MMMMMAAAAYYYYBBBEEE the older, previously known MK1 demo tape is from a bit closer to the creation of "Dubno" than we thought. Or at least, closer than what I originally thought...? any ideas?

DaddyAdv 10-06-2008 12:25 PM

Re: [new tracks] -> _unreleased_dubnobasswithmyheadman_era_
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joethelion (Post 103329)
... some of the guitar also sounds familiar, like right after Karl says "can you feel me" for the first time... maybe it was in "tongue" (but back in the mix?)

As xolbe2 spotted, it's the staccato guitar from the downtempo ending of Skyscraper.

joethelion 10-06-2008 12:29 PM

Re: [new tracks] -> _unreleased_dubnobasswithmyheadman_era_
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyAdv (Post 103330)
As xolbe2 spotted, it's the staccato guitar from the downtempo ending of Skyscraper.

ahhh I see...

so...

"Feel Me" (MK1) and "Can U Feel Me" ("MK2") basically became "Skyscraper" and Simply Red's "Thrill Me"

negative1 10-06-2008 12:46 PM

Re: [new tracks] -> _unreleased_dubnobasswithmyheadman_era_
 
looks like i need to check out the mk1 demo,
i skipped it...

later
-1

deckard236 10-06-2008 12:46 PM

Re: [new tracks] -> _unreleased_dubnobasswithmyheadman_era_
 
Well I'm glad that everyone is enjoying the tracks on some level. It's great to hear the different opinions and theories regarding these. Sorry it took 15 years to get these out, but it was also kind on nice thinking that I might have one of only a few copies (you guys know what I mean). It is also fun sharing. So based on the fact that I didn't realize that ROB was in fact almost 3 minutes longer than the DNBWHYM version (am I stupid or what?) I am going to put the whole thing up. Who knows maybe you guys can spot some differences that I haven't been able to. I am at work now, so time permitting, I will try to do that later this evening. Looking forward to hearing some more feedback.


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