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Lx_Nen 05-14-2008 05:05 AM
Ring Road video
 
A video for Ring Road has appeared over on Underworldlive...

...and a damn fine one too! Call me old fashioned if you like, but it's got a 'kiteless for the new millennium' feel to it that fits the song and Underworld far better than the likes of the 'boy boy boy' video. It's almost the missing link between Kiteless and the Crocodile video too.

10/10 from me!

negative1 05-14-2008 05:41 AM
Re: Ring Road video
 
i would hardly call a slideshow like this a video..

i'm sorry but the song itself is not strong enough to
warrant having a video..

no its not even close to their earlier work...

still waiting for a 'proper' video to show up..
looks like the ones for this album didn't make the cut..

oh well..

later
-1

mondokat 05-14-2008 07:23 AM
Re: Ring Road video
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by negative1 (Post 95968)
i would hardly call a slideshow like this a video..

no its not even close to their earlier work...
Actually, it's very reminiscent of the Spoonman video. It does have some fancier computer affects, but I would say that the geometric shapes seem kind of tacked on. Overall, as far as the video goes, I like it a lot.

The song doesn't fit the video though. When I first heard the song I thought it was jarring how British it is. I remember thinking it was a very obvious homage to their home town, and I would have expected the video to be the same. No pictures or video from Essex? No Romford? Not even a picture of a building? Very strange. The song references a TON of people and culture, but the video totally misses that point. They missed a terrific opportunity here, if you ask me.

holden 05-14-2008 08:13 AM
Re: Ring Road video
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mondokat (Post 95970)

The song doesn't fit the video though. When I first heard the song I thought it was jarring how British it is. I remember thinking it was a very obvious homage to their home town, and I would have expected the video to be the same. No pictures or video from Essex? No Romford? Not even a picture of a building? Very strange. The song references a TON of people and culture, but the video totally misses that point. They missed a terrific opportunity here, if you ask me.
Tend to agree. But this just opens up the debate of whether you want a literal video, where the images are ties to the lyrics, or, as UW have most often done, something much more conceptual, even nonrepresentational.

dubman 05-14-2008 09:50 AM
Re: Ring Road video
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by holden (Post 95973)
Tend to agree. But this just opens up the debate of whether you want a literal video, where the images are ties to the lyrics, or, as UW have most often done, something much more conceptual, even nonrepresentational.
thaaaaank you
if anything this is treading old ground. refining some things, but going back to that look of the feel of the track not being tied to anything literal but given color and type as its own attitude.
i mentioned in the uwlive thread that i like the video for boy boy boy and all, but this is finally some satisfaction. if thats a slideshow then its always been that.

khouri 05-14-2008 09:54 AM
Re: Ring Road video
 
I tend to prefer more conceptual videos and songs, myself, which is why I like Underworld. But Ring Road is a explicitly pedestrian song referencing extremely specific things in a very clearly defined reality. I think the video should have followed suit in this case.

joethelion 05-14-2008 10:35 AM
Re: Ring Road video
 
what's funny...

is that, if the video was basically a literal translation of the lyrics to "Ring Road" the SAME PEOPLE would be moaning "why can't they do more conceptual videos like they used to... why don't they do stuff like 'Rez' 'Spikee' or 'Darktrain'"

I actually liked this video, not totally sure about those geometric shapes, but overall... I found it pretty damn entertaining (much more so than say... "Boy Boy Boy" or DA3D)

...anyways they already did a video where it's just (basically) someone walking through the city... it's called "Banstyle" - remember?

gillenium 05-14-2008 11:17 AM
Re: Ring Road video
 
Booooooorrrriing.

But all of the OWB videos have looked like high school video projects, so I wasn't expecting much.

dubman 05-14-2008 12:41 PM
Re: Ring Road video
 
pfft. :rolleyes:
i think only beautiful burnout could be seen as DIY enough to be made in high school. i challenge anyone in college even to replicate what was done in BBB and RR. if they could do it without looking like amateur hour on youtube then they can probably get a job doing it.

ps. it's weird being the one defending their output ;). i can SORTA understand the mild frustration i guess. i'd actually be rather depressed if they did one that literally showed what the song was on about

pps. despite me liking the video and the recent mix up with minneapolis i still think this song is terrible.

Yannick 05-14-2008 12:43 PM
Re: Ring Road video
 
I want you to be the way I want you to be and when you're not It hurts (me) Like shredded tape something sticky for security wrapped tight around a metal box to imitate security there's a blue sky over me but the fear is on me In a place where ball games are strictly forbidden luxury two bedroom apartments overlook the traffic lights next to the rails It's a hot day It's a It's a hot day a lazy day for some but I'm bringing from the inside all these things I see a wall that's gonna fall down maybe hurt somebody after it's been tagged and fly posted It's a rush job It looks good for long enough knock ʻem out and sell ʻem and move on It's a fast buck and the race is on to get in get out get what you want get out It's the short term the long term can look after itself unless you happen to be living here I gotta stop

People are squinting to block out the sun complaining or sucking it up praying for rain the next minute for a scorched earth what's it worth? Enough is never enough let's have a little moan put the world to rights sit back and watch it all slide by itʼs a view from a train pay somebody else to drive see the suits I see the suits sunning themselves on the steps of the supermarkets and I think of you when Iʼm alone like this burning from the inside

I found a new door I didn't know where it went I went through and came out in this shopping mall where boys wear England shirts and West Ham shirts and Arsenal shirts and boys from Dagenham wear jackets called “Harlem” Grinning at the door of the Anne Summers (sex) shop It's Saint George's day and all the old people smile the young look hungry looking for a new door I'm in the sun at the back of the shops where the purple wheelie bins are pushed up against the doors that say, FIRE EXIT I smell grease there's broken glass thing under my feet the boys stop for a smoke in the sun and watch the girls cross from the job centre to the station a drunk stands in the door of a pub a bunch of peas sticks in one hand a cheery carrier bag hanging in the other hanging in the other girls in England shirts read the papers and giggle at a table in a café offering ʻHome made dinners' it's good food but your clothes come out smelling of grease

I've got my back to the rail at the end of the alley back to the by-pass you might've seen me scratchin' all these things inkin' it out deliver us from temptation and doubt there's an abandoned trolley Called ʻSAFE' and Radio 1 And on And on And on And on And on And on And on And on And on And another England shirt out in the sun spring falls in pink on the black top and cracks black and yellow tape covers the scene of a break in and every time I think of you I get my peace back

Yannick 05-14-2008 12:52 PM
Re: Ring Road video
 
The Single – ʻRing Roadʼ
Release Date – 7th July 2008
Label – www.underworldlve.com
Cat Number – UWR-00021-3
Distribution – Vital
Marketed by - Integral
Formats – CD, 12”, Digital
www.underworldlive.com


Remixes available by; Laidback Luke, Autokratz, Kris Menace and Fake Blood

joethelion 05-14-2008 02:07 PM
Re: Ring Road video
 
me wanty remixes NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


....AND THEY BEST NOT BE TERRITORY RESTRICTED
(like Beautiful Burnout.... grumble)

BrotherLovesDub 05-14-2008 02:16 PM
Re: Ring Road video
 
KRIS MENACE! excellent choice!

dubman 05-14-2008 02:23 PM
Re: Ring Road video
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by joethelion (Post 96000)
me wanty remixes NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


....AND THEY BEST NOT BE TERRITORY RESTRICTED
(like Beautiful Burnout.... grumble)
god, yes.

I WANT R59 :mad:

mondokat 05-14-2008 02:45 PM
Re: Ring Road video
 
HAHA, I just watched the video again and noticed that they DID reference the song in the video. If you look carefully, when they talk about the wall (that might fall down and hurt somebody) they have a subtle wall graphic that gets "tagged" later. They also have a graphic of the wheely bins later in the song. There's other stuff too. Can't believe I didn't notice before.

I LOVE it! :p

negative1 05-14-2008 03:00 PM
Re: Ring Road video
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yannick (Post 95995)
The Single – ʻRing Roadʼ
Release Date – 7th July 2008
Label – www.underworldlve.com
Cat Number – UWR-00021-3
Distribution – Vital
Marketed by - Integral
Formats – CD, 12”, Digital
www.underworldlive.com


Remixes available by; Laidback Luke, Autokratz, Kris Menace and Fake Blood
the only good thing about this, (hopefully),

is that it will finally put an end of releases
for this album (and not in a good way either)..

looking for the next in the riverun series....

later
-1

holden 05-14-2008 04:01 PM
Re: Ring Road video
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by negative1 (Post 96007)
the only good thing about this, (hopefully),

is that it will finally put an end of releases
for this album (and not in a good way either)..

looking for the next in the riverun series....
Not an OWB fan at all, are you? That's cool. Except that apparently the record is pretty much exactly what Rick wanted to make (according to Karl interview), so future output might be more akin to OWB than say STITI.
That said, i listened to OWB twice today, and it really has grown on me a lot, particularly the last several tracks. "Faxed Invitation" for example and "Mamgu..." are new favorites. My only real complaint is the pacing seems off. Too much frontloading of dancier tracks, then the weird break that is "To Heal", and too much ambient later on.

Oh, and i gave Laidback Luke and Fake Blood another try. LL still=gross. FB is cheesetastic, in a good way!

potatobroth 05-14-2008 05:27 PM
Re: Ring Road video
 
I love OWB, but this video is pretty much more of the same. I watched it once and that's good enough.

TheBang 05-14-2008 08:24 PM
Re: Ring Road video
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mondokat (Post 96005)
HAHA, I just watched the video again and noticed that they DID reference the song in the video. If you look carefully, when they talk about the wall (that might fall down and hurt somebody) they have a subtle wall graphic that gets "tagged" later. They also have a graphic of the wheely bins later in the song. There's other stuff too. Can't believe I didn't notice before.
There's also a picture of what I assume is a Ring Road. The same graphic appears at the beginning of the video and the end of the video (see attachments).

It doesn't appear to match the Romford ring road though. I did some Google image searches, but the best I could come up with is that it might match the M25:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Ringways_3_%26_4.png

the real stuff 05-14-2008 08:38 PM
Re: Ring Road video
 
enjoyed the video a lot, which is more than I can say for the other OWB videos

I have to say I've really come around on Ring Road. I hated it, wrote it off on the first few listens. too abrasive. but fuck it, it's loud and it's fun

Lx_Nen 05-14-2008 08:49 PM
Re: Ring Road video
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBang (Post 96022)
I did some Google image searches, but the best I could come up with is that it might match the M25
'TIS THE DREAD SIGIL ODEGRA!

AAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!!!!

dubman 05-15-2008 01:10 AM
Re: Ring Road video
 
just watched it again
whoever said this is someone's high school project is off their gourd.
goddamn.

gillenium 05-15-2008 01:15 AM
Re: Ring Road video
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dubman (Post 96031)
just watched it again
whoever said this is someone's high school project is off their gourd.
goddamn.
Ok, maybe a college freshman project. If it were a high school one, you'd see more checkerboard transitions and star wipes.

dubman 05-15-2008 01:44 AM
Re: Ring Road video
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gillenium (Post 96033)
Ok, maybe a college freshman project. If it were a high school one, you'd see more checkerboard transitions and star wipes.
such a jackass thing to say, though

hewlett2 05-15-2008 02:59 AM
Re: Ring Road video
 
Totally mystifies me that people don't like this song... it's pretty unusual for UW, I think, but terrific all the same. Love the bit when the beat kicks in on ... "TAGGED!" and the pause before the chorus, which is unexpectedly catchy but makes sense in the way that it draws together all the threads of the song....

Anyway, I'm blathering...

Somebody pitch in and tell me I'm not alone in loving this song!

Hello?

BeautifulBurnout 05-15-2008 05:42 AM
Re: Ring Road video
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hewlett2 (Post 96038)
Totally mystifies me that people don't like this song... it's pretty unusual for UW, I think, but terrific all the same. Love the bit when the beat kicks in on ... "TAGGED!" and the pause before the chorus, which is unexpectedly catchy but makes sense in the way that it draws together all the threads of the song....

Anyway, I'm blathering...

Somebody pitch in and tell me I'm not alone in loving this song!

Hello?
Blather away! :D

I love it too. Love the rhythm of the words on the beat. Knowing Romford a bit kind of helps I guess cos I can picture the Wheelie Bins behind the shops perfectly in my mind's eye.

Luscious. :D

potatobroth 05-15-2008 06:23 AM
Re: Ring Road video
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dubman (Post 96035)
such a jackass thing to say, though
in all fairness, its not a totally jackass thing to say. these days, a lot of student works have that same gritty, layered look. this video doesn't have a real concept that you can say is on par with something like Cowgirl from 10+ years ago. 10 years ago, something like that was quite difficult to do and had never really been seen before. Today, a video like that can be, albeit MUCH worse, done in an application college kids could get their hands on. it looks like a more polished student video.

its a simple little video that spells out what you are hearing... and much like the song does, i guess thats a good thing. but after watching it, I have absolutely no desire to watch it again because well, I've seen 'it' many many times before... just with different words or textures.

I do love the song though. I loved it from the first moment I heard it and gladly typed it on this forum many many times.

mondokat 05-15-2008 06:30 AM
Re: Ring Road video
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBang (Post 96022)
There's also a picture of what I assume is a Ring Road. The same graphic appears at the beginning of the video and the end of the video.
I noticed the same thing and immediately google mapped Romford to see if it matched, but it doesn't. I wonder what it is?

There are a TON of flashy images that are probably pictures of relevant stuff, but it's a bit hard to see because they are only there for an instant. I wish this wasn't a streaming format so it would be easier to frame step. I bet this thing is chock full of surprises.

gillenium 05-15-2008 12:48 PM
Re: Ring Road video
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by potatobroth (Post 96050)
in all fairness, its not a totally jackass thing to say. these days, a lot of student works have that same gritty, layered look.
It's completely fair. I know a guy in high school who consistently makes better content, and the standard of college video editing today is much higher than you'd expect.

This is just art-for-art's-sake, press-every-button-on-the-effects-board stuff, which is fine if you like that sort of thing. It definitely relates to their older videos. But, I'm not really intent on giving free passes to content that lacks creativity and focus just because it originates from Underworld HQ.

potatobroth 05-15-2008 04:26 PM
Re: Ring Road video
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gillenium (Post 96086)
It's completely fair. I know a guy in high school who consistently makes better content, and the standard of college video editing today is much higher than you'd expect.

This is just art-for-art's-sake, press-every-button-on-the-effects-board stuff, which is fine if you like that sort of thing. It definitely relates to their older videos. But, I'm not really intent on giving free passes to content that lacks creativity and focus just because it originates from Underworld HQ.
i think we agreed :) i was quoting Dub, not you.

King of Snake 05-15-2008 10:52 PM
Re: Ring Road video
 
i think this video is really good. Definitely got that old-school tomato/underworld graphic style but a bit more high-tech with the 3d elements.
Would love to see this in uncompressed form. Some of the detail and motion is amazing.

More visuals like this at the concerts too please! :)

big screen satellite 05-16-2008 01:41 AM
Re: Ring Road video
 
RING ROAD IS THE BEST TRACK ON OWB (along with Beautiful Burnout) - so all you RR haters can lick my OWBalls!!!

on uwlive this video states that it is world exclusive - so i assume that its a uwlive only thing (?) - it is very cool - and pretty clever

i was kinda excpecting an 'in-car' driving round romford' type video showing the things from the song (like tagged walls, people in football shirts etc, ) but that might have been a little too obvious (unless thats the official MTV video - :D )

anyway i can't wait for the other two remixes to surface - Kris' and Autokratz...

/matt sets the sat nav for the ring road....

TheBang 05-16-2008 03:05 AM
Re: Ring Road video
 
Well, there is a second version of the Ring Road video on The Bells! Maybe that'll be the drive around video.

potatobroth 05-16-2008 07:27 AM
Re: Ring Road video
 
It is what it is. Its a jam of images with the lyrics spelled out over top. I don't think its terribly original, especially when you consider where its coming from. Its technically good, there is no doubting that. Its creative in the sense that someone created it and did a fine job at that. But its no Cowgirl, and I don't expect anything should be again. When I first saw the Cowgirl video, I wanted to watch it again immediately following its conclusion. I taped hours of MtvAmp (on VHS) hoping to get. I don't have the same reaction to this probably because its not fresh to me. I actually think the layering in Cowgirl as much more original and aesthetic. So when Karl says, "England shirts" there is a faded England flag. Hrm. Just didn't do it for me.

grahamwood 05-16-2008 08:29 AM
Re: Ring Road video
 
hello there
there is:
a ringroad (m25-maybe a ref to ian sinclairs 'london orbital' or the ringroads of your mind or something!)
a metal box (wrapped tight for security)
a 2 bed apartment (sort of)
some traffic lights
some rails
a wall that gets tagged (sort of)
a shopping mall
st george cross
a cannon
a wheelie bin
a fire exit
a zebra crossing
a tube sign
a pub (sort of)
a cafe (sort of)
a shopping trolley called "safe"
some black and yellow tape
karl (sort of)
lots of photos of pavement/puddles/oil on pavement on a very hot day
some typography
in the video
yes-very literal for once!
big love
g

lloyd 05-16-2008 08:39 AM
Re: Ring Road video
 
thnx for taking the time to post here graham

big screen satellite 05-16-2008 08:45 AM
Re: Ring Road video
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by grahamwood (Post 96142)
hello there
there is:
a ringroad (m25-maybe a ref to ian sinclairs 'london orbital' or the ringroads of your mind or something!)
a metal box (wrapped tight for security)
a 2 bed apartment (sort of)
some traffic lights
some rails
a wall that gets tagged (sort of)
a shopping mall
st george cross
a cannon
a wheelie bin
a fire exit
a zebra crossing
a tube sign
a pub (sort of)
a cafe (sort of)
a shopping trolley called "safe"
some black and yellow tape
karl (sort of)
lots of photos of pavement/puddles/oil on pavement on a very hot day
some typography
in the video
yes-very literal for once!
big love
g
yeah ignoring the lyrics, the images were pretty subtle - but pretty literal, i got the traffic lights and rails... it was fun - watching again now....

it's cleverer than promoting a song with a video fronted by some dumb bird in skimpy undies, although i don't discourage this :)

thanks graham, keep up the 'wood' work ;)

Dirty0900 05-16-2008 09:46 AM
Re: Ring Road video
 
Vid was to straight forward to do so this is quite interesting and the best one for an OWB single so far imo.

TheBang 05-16-2008 11:35 AM
Re: Ring Road video
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by grahamwood (Post 96142)
a ringroad (m25
Ha, I rock.

BrotherLovesDub 05-16-2008 12:20 PM
Re: Ring Road video
 
best Underworld Video since....Spoonman?


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