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airtowel 12-02-2014 07:16 AM

everything everything part 2
 
what songs would u choose?
1. kittens
2. rowla
3. puppies
4. moaner
5. dark train
6. dirty guitar
7. interlude
8. bruce lee

stimpee 12-03-2014 05:44 AM

Re: everything everything part 2
 
Aside from the fact that Kittens and Rowla were on the EE DVD?

airtowel 12-04-2014 03:05 AM

Re: everything everything part 2
 
well then other versions

jetpig 12-04-2014 12:58 PM

Re: everything everything part 2
 
check out the bootleg babes collection. 2 discs of fan chosen favorites mixed to sound like a single set.

holden 12-04-2014 01:43 PM

Re: everything everything part 2
 
...and the many gigs at RTSR. Cut and paste from those to create your custom set list!

Over the years, having listened to so many boots, I find I'm much more interested in the improvs, unnamed tracks and rare songs than hearing the old classics over and over. There are those several tracks from each album that haven't been played live, but it seems to me that UW has done a pretty good job of throwing in the odd ones occasionally (especially the liveherenow 2008 recordings).

BrotherLovesDub 12-04-2014 07:46 PM

Re: everything everything part 2
 
Nothing over 110bpms, Karl plays guitar on every track, Steve Reich and Rick Smith direct a 12 piece ensemble to accompany the music, released on DVD with Tomato artwork.

jetpig 12-06-2014 09:08 AM

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Above and beyond did something like that. They missed the point of live instruments though and recorded them all straight to desk taking all the room resonances and space out of their sound. It wasn't very good.

airtowel 12-06-2014 11:20 AM

Re: everything everything part 2
 
the belfort show was better imo

iamneorev 04-08-2019 11:08 PM

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I noticed Rowla and Kittens audio from Everything Everything is lossless. Anyone rip the EE DVD to get the full show with Moaner? I wanna try and insert Rowla and Kittens into their correct place in the setlist to make a more complete live audio set.

joethelion 04-09-2019 10:58 AM

Re: everything everything part 2
 
I have them, but only in mp3

There really isn't a "right" place to put them in though, as EE is compiled from at least two or three different shows (not just 22 May 1999, Brussels, Belgium - as noted on Wiki)

[or am I just remembering this completely wrong???]

Like, I'm almost positive "Pearls Girl" is not from Brussels, as - when UW played PG, it transitioned pretty seamlessly from "Dirty Guitar" (I still have a shitty audience recording of that concert)

http://uwlive.rowla.com/gigs/view/165

(Kittens is probably from that Brussels performance though)

TheBang 04-09-2019 01:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iamneorev (Post 165438)
I noticed Rowla and Kittens audio from Everything Everything is lossless.

No, they're not, unfortunately. They each have 2 audio tracks, 5.1 channel and 2 channel Dolby Digital, which is lossy.

iamneorev 04-09-2019 02:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBang (Post 165440)
No, they're not, unfortunately. They each have 2 audio tracks, 5.1 channel and 2 channel Dolby Digital, which is lossy.

Perhaps it is the 48khz, no cutoff at 20khz like 320 mp3.

Also DD is considered lossy, but bitrates can be 192, 348, 640... so audio can still technically go higher than a 320 mp3.

I have found sometimes audio and video qualities differ between NTSC and PAL versions of the same DVD.

For example, The Prodigy's Their Law DVD... the NTSC had lossless audio but with lower quality video and the PAL had higher quality video but with lossy audio. Weird.

iamneorev 04-09-2019 04:31 PM

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Anyway, I made my own Everything Everything Extended where I put Kittens and Rowla in their correct places as well as Moaner and fixed the silences between Pearl's Jam and Jumbo and Jumbo and King Of Snake where the crowd disappears so it sounds like a continuous concert.

TheBang 04-09-2019 06:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iamneorev (Post 165442)
Perhaps it is the 48khz, no cutoff at 20khz like 320 mp3.

Well, AC-3 (DD) is a different codec from MPEG, so the psychoacoustic model differs from what you would expect with MP3.

Quote:

Originally Posted by iamneorev (Post 165442)
Also DD is considered lossy, but bitrates can be 192, 348, 640... so audio can still technically go higher than a 320 mp3.

Yeah, but also bear in mind that when you see those bitrates, they're usually carrying 6 channels of audio instead of 2. The per-channel bitrate is much lower than a stereo 320 Kbps MP3. Also, AC-3 is an older codec than MP3, with the efficiency being more on par with the performance of MP2.

iamneorev 04-09-2019 09:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by joethelion (Post 165439)
I have them, but only in mp3

There really isn't a "right" place to put them in though, as EE is compiled from at least two or three different shows (not just 22 May 1999, Brussels, Belgium - as noted on Wiki)

[or am I just remembering this completely wrong???]

Like, I'm almost positive "Pearls Girl" is not from Brussels, as - when UW played PG, it transitioned pretty seamlessly from "Dirty Guitar" (I still have a shitty audience recording of that concert)

http://uwlive.rowla.com/gigs/view/165

(Kittens is probably from that Brussels performance though)


Well even Pearl's Girl and Jumbo are swapped on the CD/DVD compared to the setlist, but I used the Brussels setlist and placed Kittens between Push Upstairs and Pearl's Girl and I placed Rowla between Rez/Cowgirl and Moaner. Edited in crowd noise instead of the silence between Pearl's Girl and Jumbo and between Jumbo and Shudder/King Of Snake makes it sound/feel more like a continuous show. I think my edit came out quite good.


I wish Underworld reissue Everything Everything like they did with Dubnobass, STITI, and BF, but give us the full audio of the individual shows they used to edit EE together. I'll take 3 pro-recorded UW live sets from 99. I keep begging the band thru social media, but no luck :(


Come on Rick & Karl, give us an Everything, Everything, EVERYTHING reissue.


I just want an awesome FULL 1999 show in pro-recorded audio.

34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j 04-11-2019 11:32 AM

Re: everything everything part 2
 
the idea of a well-produced double disc live set spanning up to the current day featuring only tracks that weren't on the original EE is pretty exciting, get on it UW, y'all have been slouching lately

negative1 04-11-2019 03:54 PM

Re: everything everything part 2
 
actually with some of the livestreams, and professionally shot broadcasts.

there's quite a bit of great quality live material out there already.

you just have to put it together yourself.

later
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jetpig 04-11-2019 11:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j (Post 165457)
the idea of a well-produced double disc live set spanning up to the current day featuring only tracks that weren't on the original EE is pretty exciting, get on it UW, y'all have been slouching lately




While the live shows have been somewhat same-ish for a bit, I would say they are anything but slouching right now, what with new music every week for the last 6 months.

TheBang 04-12-2019 12:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jetpig (Post 165464)
While the live shows have been somewhat same-ish for a bit, I would say they are anything but slouching right now, what with new music every week for the last 6 months.

https://media.giphy.com/media/jXD7kFLwudbBC/giphy.gif

dubman 04-15-2019 06:27 PM

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giving it a toss because everyone else is too scared to get unreasonably nerdy about this.
AND to make sure it's as dorky and improbable as possible, it's only AHDO material onward


Monkey Wink / You Do Scribble / Swing Up High (radical version)
Beautiful Burnout (long intro)
Another Silent Way
Mo Move / Little Speaker / Ansum
Holding the Moth / Parc
Nylon Strung
Dexters Chalk / Phonestrap6/Autotrader4
Brilliant Yes That Would Be / Threat of Rain
Two Months Off


hm!
ok so even though this would be ridiculous as an EE2 thing, if this were a setlist today i feel like this would be... really fucking good?

twicezero 04-16-2019 10:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dubman (Post 165480)

Monkey Wink / You Do Scribble / Swing Up High (radical version)
Beautiful Burnout (long intro)
Another Silent Way
Mo Move / Little Speaker / Ansum
Holding the Moth / Parc
Nylon Strung
Dexters Chalk / Phonestrap6/Autotrader4
Brilliant Yes That Would Be / Threat of Rain
Two Months Off


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joethelion 04-16-2019 04:34 PM

Re: everything everything part 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iamneorev (Post 165445)
I just want an awesome FULL 1999 show in pro-recorded audio.

There's actually a few from the '98 / '99 period...

Temptation NYE 1998 | UPGRADE
1998.06.27 | Glastonbury Festival
1998.10.31 | 'Hugo d.Nite'
1998.11.02 | Mojo Club, Reeperbahn
1999.05.13 | Viva Festival, Cologne, Germany

There's certainly more, but some are radio broadcasts - or (AFAIK) only available as mp3's

holden 04-16-2019 05:08 PM

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Yeah, Everything, everything is a great film and record, and I still watch it for the visuals. But with at least a hundred concert recordings, some of very high quality, I'm not hankering for a new official live album. Especially since the setlists have been pretty static and the improvisation less pronounced. For a more recent film, I'm cool with the Amsterdam vid from 2017.

Ooh, so many memories of the 03-08 shows. I remember the excitement of downloading from the FTP site as soon as a new boot appeared. Always fun to hear which tracks made the cut and which surprises.

Hmm, drawing from the tracks played live since E,E... I'll have to think hard about my dream setlist.

jetpig 04-16-2019 09:07 PM

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Deserved, :p. The internet is terrible at communicating inference.



Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBang (Post 165465)


34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j 04-17-2019 07:53 AM

Re: everything everything part 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dubman (Post 165480)
giving it a toss because everyone else is too scared to get unreasonably nerdy about this.
AND to make sure it's as dorky and improbable as possible, it's only AHDO material onward


Monkey Wink / You Do Scribble / Swing Up High (radical version)
Beautiful Burnout (long intro)
Another Silent Way
Mo Move / Little Speaker / Ansum
Holding the Moth / Parc
Nylon Strung
Dexters Chalk / Phonestrap6/Autotrader4
Brilliant Yes That Would Be / Threat of Rain
Two Months Off


hm!
ok so even though this would be ridiculous as an EE2 thing, if this were a setlist today i feel like this would be... really fucking good?



man what I wouldn't give for another Tokyo 2005 type set right now


"Swing up High" came up on random last week, I forgot how great that track is


missing "Bamboo" though :)

jetpig 04-17-2019 10:42 AM

Re: everything everything part 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j (Post 165487)
man what I wouldn't give for another Tokyo 2005 type set right now


"Swing up High" came up on random last week, I forgot how great that track is


missing "Bamboo" though :)


Anything along the pre2010 lines would be great. I have no idea of how big of an ask that is, but I find it sad that nothing in the last decade has had the time or space to develop onstage the way all the pre-barking stuff did.

dubman 04-17-2019 03:03 PM

Re: everything everything part 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j (Post 165487)
man what I wouldn't give for another Tokyo 2005 type set right now


"Swing up High" came up on random last week, I forgot how great that track is


missing "Bamboo" though :)


I thought of Bamboo! decided i'd like to see what they'd do with Threat of Rain since it has a similar kind of rolling steadiness and whether they would, as detour put it: "go heads down elbows up into the groove instead of ruining it with *experimental noise*"


and yeah, swing up high! would like to thank AnT for pestering them over it, even though by all accounts they don't like it. whatever! it's great!

holden 04-17-2019 07:20 PM

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OK, for my fully-mastered, dream gig...post-Beaucoup Fish tracks that have actually been played live:

(in no particular order, and i haven't really thought about how these would mix; and yes, the dream gig would be continuously mixed, no LP-esque renditions or stops between tracks. It's heavily improvised! And it's lonnnnnggg)

Momove
Twist
Groove Wit hStrings (AHDO-era improv)
Dinosaur Adventure 3D
Beep Beep (AHDO-era improv)
Always Loved a Film (silver boots/2003 live/pre Barking version)
Yard Beat (Darren Price track)
Lenne Penne
Small Conker & a Twix/You Do Scribble (pre Barking instrumental version)
Five ft 5 (Darren Price interlude)
Peggy Sussed
Shake that Higher (Darren Price interlude)
JAL to Tokyo
Aquafunk (DP interlude)
Holding the Moth (or Globe pre-OWB version)
Everybody Jack (Price interlude)
Peach Tree
Beautiful Burnout
Glam Bucket
Faxed Invitation
Bamboo
Little Speaker
Bird 1
Downpipe
If Rah
Low Burn
Ova Nova
Nylon Strung
Dexter's Chalk

potatobroth 04-23-2019 06:16 PM

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you seem to be missing 5 Points :P


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