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sandston 07-18-2009 11:26 AM

Diamond Jigsaw
 
Its amazing that there are 60 or so video clips from Italy of Born Slippy and what appears to be just one very poorly recorded vid of what we are calling Diamond Jigsaw. From what I can glean from it this is going to be huge. There has to be a better longer clip of it out there. I want more

Champiness 07-18-2009 03:23 PM

Re: Diamond Jigsaw
 
Link? I'd like to prepare myself for when I can listen to it properly.

TheBang 07-18-2009 04:33 PM

Re: Diamond Jigsaw
 
Yeah, that's pretty much how it always is. A thousand video clips of Born Slippy and a smattering of other songs.

undarrenworld 07-19-2009 05:04 AM

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Diamond Jigsaw make me very happy, its beautiful song:) Underworld are masters:)

stimpee 07-19-2009 08:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Champiness (Post 113040)
Link? I'd like to prepare myself for when I can listen to it properly.

See the moments forum for the Torino gig youtubes.

testudo 07-20-2009 05:06 PM

Re: Diamond Jigsaw
 
yeh, a one minute long clip and super bassed out... we NEED a better quality clip! UWLIVE please post a better live vid!

phaseblue 07-20-2009 09:07 PM

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Is this it? If it is, it sounds very nice indeed!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0IVjXqgbMQ

Can`t wait to hear more!

TheBang 07-21-2009 12:45 AM

Re: Diamond Jigsaw
 
Actually, that one's "Between Stars".

This is the one we're pretty sure is "Diamond Jigsaw":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM3Z2AKh4Xk

phaseblue 07-21-2009 08:17 AM

Re: Diamond Jigsaw
 
Thanks Todd!

They`ve been introducing so much new material lately, it`s hard for me to keep up with
it all!

Pretty awesome stuff!

qirex 07-31-2009 10:56 AM

Re: Diamond Jigsaw
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBang (Post 113121)
Actually, that one's "Between Stars".

This is the one we're pretty sure is "Diamond Jigsaw":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM3Z2AKh4Xk


I can't wait for high quality versions of those 2 songs

TheBang 07-31-2009 11:49 AM

Re: Diamond Jigsaw
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qirex (Post 113633)
I can't wait for high quality versions of those 2 songs

Then get out your tape recorders for Aug. 7.

testudo 07-31-2009 02:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBang (Post 113639)
Then get out your tape recorders for Aug. 7.

"OH YES OH YES PLEASE"

TheBang 08-08-2009 01:07 AM

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OK, so I didn't put this up last night, because I thought for sure they would play Diamond Jigsaw tonight on the broadcast and everyone would hear it. Well, they didn't, so here is Diamond Jigsaw from Vegas. Enjoy!

http://www.bangerter.org/todd/underw...mondjigsaw.mp3

Karl plays guitar on this song. You can hear him come in on the second repeat of the synth line at the beginning. I think they had some problems with the song, so the intro is actually a lot longer than it would normally be.

testudo 08-08-2009 09:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBang (Post 114372)
OK, so I didn't put this up last night, because I thought for sure they would play Diamond Jigsaw tonight on the broadcast and everyone would hear it. Well, they didn't, so here is Diamond Jigsaw from Vegas. Enjoy!

Thank you so much!:D I was very sad that they didn't play DJ!

This track should be released whenever the boys are happy with it... it could be a Born Slippy phenomena!

Single release, never released on an album style of BS!

And here is the perfect cover for the single: http://www.underworldlive.com/home/0...e2/090806d.jpg

I think the energy on the bad/distorted live recording in Torino of DJ has something really special!

I hope we get another live copy of it -hint-hint! :D

holden 08-08-2009 07:38 PM

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Well, hmm, i don't know...

Excited as i am to hear new UW material (thx TB for the quality recording!), i'm just not feeling this one. It seems, well, dated. It could have been on Underneath the Radar or Change the Weather. There are some beautiful and interesting elements, but the song structure and upbeat main hook seems rather "synthpop", and not the UW we've been used to since Dubno (sure, there are a few pop-ish tracks from that album and the proto version, but not the lion's share). Maybe it's a nostalgia sort of track? Going back to where things started?

Maybe in a few more listens, this will warm me up.

scary man 08-08-2009 07:39 PM

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This is such a fucking tune, man.

Reminds me of Prince's 'I Wanna Be Your Lover' for some reason.

Blinding. Let's 'ave the new album, please?

smagdali 08-09-2009 04:06 AM

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What the *fuck* is that?

I mean, I quite like it, but somehow that just feels wrong. It's like a song, not a tune.

I wonder if they'll put it out as a 7"? maybe the B-side for Between Stars

Dirty0900 08-09-2009 04:39 AM

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I wasn't feeling it at first, but now I like it. Though this is only a fan recording so there may be multiple changes to it.

Andrea 08-09-2009 05:09 AM

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The intro is pretty good until the "peep" sound disappears and that horrible synth starts not to mention the singing.

Dated? .....ha..ha..coudn“t say it better. They did something similar with Between the stars latest.
Multiple changes? ....Ok guys is this a joke or something?

Champiness 08-09-2009 10:04 AM

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The song certainly sounds like a pre-Dubno release in some ways (certainly lyrically). But it's so much better than anything they were even capable of making then, which isn't all that surprising. It's so uplifting and the lyrics are still the cut-and-paste masterpieces we all love.

Speaking of which, here's my best stab at the lyrics:

Does it hurt
That you finally found yourself
And does it hurt
That you crawled out of your shell
Black carpet from my mood
Come let me shine
Lonely sweet love come on you
Give me your time
Don't look at me like a tourist
The dark sky (?)
Outside alone and all the signs
Alone and all the signs
Alone and

Does it help
That you finally found yourself
And does it help
That you crawled out of your shelf
I wanna wake up in a better place
Take me in your care
Lonely and
*cough* horny in the dark
There's someone there
And there's a white stretch limo parked out
A single line
Premium tequila
Diamond jigsaw makes me feel fine

Does it help
That you finally found yourself
And does it help
That you crawled out of your shell
Can you hear me can you hear me calling
When the moon is on
I wanna feel I wanna feel surrounded
Lying in the dark
And there's a white stretch limo parked out
A single line
Premium tequila
Diamond jigsaw makes me feel fine

Does it help
And does it help
And does it help
And does it help

King of Snake 08-09-2009 11:25 AM

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I love this tune. It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside ;)
I always find it quite refreshing to hear dance music that is just unashamedly upbeat and happy, like Rez, TMO or Jumbo.
Is "it sounds like song, not a tune" a serious criticism? It seems to me that the two terms are largely interchangeable.

BeautifulBurnout 08-09-2009 11:29 AM

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I'm loving it too. A distinct poppy, electro sound almost. But so what. It makes me feel happy. :D

dubman 08-09-2009 11:35 AM

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it all feels very "live" doesnt it? i suspect the basic mechanics would still be there for a studio version but the rest would get a major facelift. feels raw enough that speculation is almost a bit pointless, so.. we'll see?

TheBang 08-09-2009 11:35 AM

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I think it grows on you too. The first time I heard it during soundcheck, I was like, "Wow, I dunno about that synth line......" But now, it's been playing in the hotel room a lot.

Dunwho 08-09-2009 11:54 AM

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mmmm that synth has to go... or at least be toned down... im cool with the lyrics.. but the sound is very dated (as has been said here already) I love the lyrics and the happy feel... and the synth doesnt have to be taken away but at least toned down a bit...

I amnt the biggest fan of Between Stars either.. im hoping that these two arnt a show for what the new album will be like. These arnt grooves, their not conventional dance...

...in fact i dont think its dance at all.. at times this song sounds like stadium rock! Its a bit silly.

And whats really been letting me down is how uninventive the drumming is on these two tracks.. (BS and DJ) when i listen to OWB the quality of the drum sounds and also their complexity is fantastic... and drums has always been a huge quality to UW

hmmmmm

King of Snake 08-09-2009 01:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunwho (Post 114524)
These arnt grooves, their not conventional dance...
...in fact i dont think its dance at all.. at times this song sounds like stadium rock! Its a bit silly.

oh man "it's not conventional dance"?!
Are you saying that you would prefer if it was conventional?
wtf do you mean by "these aren't grooves" anyway? Define what is a groove to you then?
I realise everyone has their own taste but some of the criticisms leveled here are just...well, silly.

It's like we're still in the early 90's and dance/rock crossover never happened. Underworld in particular were always mentioned as a band that made a successfull crossover between rock, pop and techno.


Quote:

And whats really been letting me down is how uninventive the drumming is on these two tracks.. (BS and DJ) when i listen to OWB the quality of the drum sounds and also their complexity is fantastic... and drums has always been a huge quality to UW
well personally I'm glad not every track has to be a Beautiful Burnout-style bongo-fest.

Dirty0900 08-09-2009 03:53 PM

Re: Diamond Jigsaw
 
Recent rips of this and Between Stars are making me think good stuff is coming alongside:

Bamboo
You Do Scribble
Always Loved A Film
Strumpet

khouri 08-09-2009 03:54 PM

Re: Diamond Jigsaw
 
This song reminds me of Moroder's "Never Ending Story".

Dunwho 08-10-2009 07:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by King of Snake (Post 114543)
oh man "it's not conventional dance"?!
Are you saying that you would prefer if it was conventional?
wtf do you mean by "these aren't grooves" anyway? Define what is a groove to you then?
I realise everyone has their own taste but some of the criticisms leveled here are just...well, silly.

It's like we're still in the early 90's and dance/rock crossover never happened. Underworld in particular were always mentioned as a band that made a successfull crossover between rock, pop and techno.


well personally I'm glad not every track has to be a Beautiful Burnout-style bongo-fest.

Well first of all i dont mean to offend anyone, its just an opinion and im a little taken aback at how strong your reaction was..

By groove i mean a good solid synth progression thats not too long and repeats over and over. Ontop of this then you develop the groove with more elements and it builds and builds. I know when i dance to Dance music i want to get into that groove.. hear how the song progresses and react to how a new element warps the already established groove and so on so forth.. i guess thats progressive house in a nut shell. But think of Jumbo, Rowla, Moaner, Two Months Off, Glam Bucket, Holding Moth, Spoonman, etc etc etc... all these songs represent each main album release by UWmkII and they all follow this principle of developing grooves and hypnotic rhythms..

I dont see this in the BS and DJ

And this also helps to explain what i mean by conventional Dance - I dont feel like i can really dance to this new music... there is nothing to really get lost in.. nothing pumping at me to make me go longer and dance harder... give it everything i have ... its just not there.

And im not just talking about huge pumping tunes like .Nuxx - 8Ball has the same effect and others like it

As far as the Drumming comment goes... listen to Crocodile and you instantly hear a rich texture of low-end rhythms, maybe not all drum sounds but still a real good solid rhythmic quality, Ring Road has the obvious drums but listen behind that and there is some reall good play on the high hats and what sounds like a bit of bongo which really drives the song forward and keeps a bit of momentum. I could throw in a few "Second Toughest" songs but you would probably say that that was all Darren Emmerson or something..

I am a fan of some of the MkI material too and while i amnt the biggest fan of Diamond Jigsaw and Between Stars yet, i am open to let them grow on me. I really like Strumpet however, i did wonder if they would develop on the sound of strumpet and clearly they have... I just hope that they take these songs and really give them a good going over, even as pop songs i wouldnt be ove rthe moon about these, especially when i know just how good the lads can be, i would love to hear them take these songs and develop on them in a more dance orientated fashion or even just to thicken up the sound and give it more richness.. they just seem a little weak to me..

Im cool to discuss the songs but dont get so agressive over it.. not everyone is going to see eye to eye.

King of Snake 08-10-2009 10:22 AM

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I'm just being "aggressive" for the sake of argument man, don't take it too personally. I never said that you offended anyone either but if you say something like "its not conventional dance" or "it's not a groove" you can expect someone to pick up on it and ask you wtf you're talking about. And I mean that in the nicest possible way.
If we didn't have a fight about liking or not liking a new uw track from time to time this forum would soooo boring.

starfox203 08-10-2009 10:40 AM

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I love this tune. Yes it's a bit retro - almost New Order sounding, but it really rocks. Nothing wrong with uplifting at all. I like that Underworld mixes it up a bit.

After OWB, which had some amazing moments, but is kind of a downer record in tone, having a full on dance record with uplifting tracks would be great.

I hope a new album consists of

Between Stars
Diamond Jigsaw
Strumpet
Always Loved a Film
Darc
Telematic Peal
Bamboo
Moon in Water

I'll take You Do Scribble as well, though it's not that compelling to me, though I know it is well loved here.

qirex 08-10-2009 11:28 AM

Re: Diamond Jigsaw
 
Well darc, alwys loved.., telematic all have been released already so I doubt those would be on a new album. Strumpet, diamond, between stars will prob either hit an album or atleast a river run

jose m 08-10-2009 12:02 PM

Re: Diamond Jigsaw
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qirex (Post 114625)
Well darc, alwys loved.., telematic all have been released already so I doubt those would be on a new album. Strumpet, diamond, between stars will prob either hit an album or atleast a river run


alaf & telematic have been released?:confused:

dubman 08-10-2009 12:19 PM

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i think hes taking its availability as a 'stream' in the audio section to mean it's 'released'

which would be wrong.

starfox203 08-10-2009 12:19 PM

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Versions of Telematic and ALAF have been released with statements that they are not complete.

In fact, the version of Telematic that I most prefer, I have edited from a web broadcast and it is way different than the versions available on UWL.

qirex 08-10-2009 12:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jose m (Post 114627)
alaf & telematic have been released?:confused:

yeah, werent they hosted on UW live along with like 4 versions of phonestrap? I doubt they'd sell songs they hosted for free.

edit: I see

testudo 08-10-2009 01:47 PM

Re: Diamond Jigsaw
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBang (Post 114372)
Well, they didn't, so here is Diamond Jigsaw from Vegas. Enjoy!

So the question is: where is the rest of the recording of this show? :D

TheBang 08-10-2009 01:57 PM

Re: Diamond Jigsaw
 
There are 2 recordings of this show. Keep an eye on RTSR, as that is where you'll find them. One of the problems is that my main computer has been at the Apple Store for repair for a week and a half now. Now that I'm back home, I'll call them and see what's up.

bas_I_am 08-10-2009 04:20 PM

Re: Diamond Jigsaw
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBang (Post 114644)
One of the problems is that my main computer has been at the Apple Store for repair for a week and a half now

what? a mac went down?

I thought that never happened!

Dirty0900 08-10-2009 04:50 PM

Re: Diamond Jigsaw
 
If we all liked the same stuff this would be a crap forum. We need hot debates like the UK nationality thing.

I for one love You Do Scribble where I know Numberonesuperfan Matt doesn't. I also detest Thing In A Book from the old days which a lot of people like.


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