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bklyndv 09-18-2005 08:01 AM

Re: Indie movies are soo much better!
 
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Originally Posted by King of Snake
of course the LOTR trilogy isn't Hollywood either, and the story (at least most of it) is taken directly from the books, so you can hardly accuse Peter Jackson of anything :)

Well, given that he directed the films it's pretty safe to say he had some impact on how the books were translated to film, so yeah I would pretty much hold him responsible for what I feel their failings are ;)

Again, like I said above, what works on page rarely works the same way on screen -- books provide good narrative structure but rarely accomplish on screen what works in the medium (which is why I offered the example of Hitch, who when adapting books would read only a handful of pages and "fill out" the rest of a film adaptation with details that worked, cinematically).

King of Snake 09-18-2005 08:39 AM

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I get what you mean and of course it's PJ's idea of how the book would translate to the screen. But most/all of the set pieces where the heroes are facing impossible odds and still manage to triumph in the end are from the book afaik. It's not like in the book they die, but they made it Hollywood so they get to live instead. Most people will have read the books anyway so will know beforehand that character x will either live or die, the movie didn't really make any big changes in that respect.

GforGroove 09-18-2005 11:09 AM

Re: Indie movies are soo much better!
 
too bad LOTR sucks.


lalelu

dubman 09-18-2005 03:32 PM

Re: Indie movies are soo much better!
 
you guys are BABIES.
"oh that almost worked, oh that could have been cool, oh if only they tweaked things for my tastes, oh SIGH, OH BITCH AND OH MOAN"

there's legitimate complaints, and then there's just sloppily applying your quip to what good moviemaking (or book adaptation) should look like in general. that whole line about books not translating to film well is horseshit. people may not be able to get it right very often, but it certainly can be done well.

certain members here sound like the same kind of people who say "the beatles suck" just to show the world that theyre super-opinionated.
and that can fuck off, really.

Tom 09-19-2005 01:30 AM

Re: Indie movies are soo much better!
 
dubman wins.

bklyndv 09-19-2005 05:11 AM

Re: Indie movies are soo much better!
 
Totally. My mind was just blown.

viddy 09-19-2005 07:55 AM

Re: Indie movies are soo much better!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dubman
you guys are BABIES.
"oh that almost worked, oh that could have been cool, oh if only they tweaked things for my tastes, oh SIGH, OH BITCH AND OH MOAN"

there's legitimate complaints, and then there's just sloppily applying your quip to what good moviemaking (or book adaptation) should look like in general. that whole line about books not translating to film well is horseshit. people may not be able to get it right very often, but it certainly can be done well.

I agree that it can be done well, but more often it isn't done well. I too often find myself saying "oh that almost worked, oh that could have been cool", specific examples being the Resident Evil movie, the DOOM movie (even though I haven't seen it yet), and hopefully Hollywood will not f*** up the upcoming Silent Hill movie because I really have a special place in my memory playing such a fun and scary game franchise.

For the Silent Hill series especially, I feel the series has a lot of potential to be very a good, not cheesy movie. I really hope I will not be saying "oh that almost worked, oh that could have been cool" once I see the film. For once I just wish someone would take a video game franchise and give it the love and respect it deserves, like what James Cameron did with Aliens. The only reason I feel I can complain that Silent Hill better be good is because I've seen someone take a franchise and respectfully add onto it and expand upon it such as in Aliens. I was worried that Batman Begins would be similar. They needed to respect the first two films and not make this one a joke (like the last two Batman films). It turned out great.

GforGroove 09-19-2005 12:10 PM

Re: Indie movies are soo much better!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dubman

certain members here sound like the same kind of people who say "the beatles suck" just to show the world that theyre super-opinionated.
and that can fuck off, really.


yo dubman! Hola :)... Yeah The Beatles suck bigtime before Sgt.Peppers!!! isn't it..?!

Super-opinionted ... that is like you on the music forum all the time no?
yay! im getting cool in here.


(to begin with.. this thread about "indie" vs "mainstream" is sooooo super-opinionated!!)

dubman 09-20-2005 08:49 AM

Re: Indie movies are soo much better!
 
oh man i need to lighten up.


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