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TheBang 11-22-2015 12:40 PM

Re: born slippy - live versions (listings) [comparisons]
 
Yeah, but this was about the evolution and development of the song prior to its release, not its evolution and variation as a live performance after its release.

tusken 11-22-2015 01:15 PM

Re: born slippy - live versions (listings) [comparisons]
 
i can confirm that the leicester performance now released is from october 1994. i was at leicester uni at the time and went to both gigs. the feb 94 one was the megadog tour, underworld played one set. By october, underworld were big enough to be the headline -hence the mmm dog. i distinctly remember this gig because they played two sets -a fact also recognised in the title of the track on the deluxe release. Dance music in provincial cities was still in its relative infancy - leicester uni was in fact several years ahead of most student unions at this time -these were truly exciting, unforgettable times. hardly any students went to the megadog gig -it was all crusties and "townies" -a really interesting vibe.

I am curious as to why they specifically refer to the 2 sets in the title of the track -as in 2 sets let them play a longer version maybe? obviously i dont remember nuxx at that time as it was unreleased.

when slippy came out i always span the other side of the 12 inch, never nuxx. i didnt really rate it to be honest. i have never understood why that track sold a million and nothing else by underworld came remotely close. the power of the media bandwagon in full effect -thats what nuxx was -and not a bad thing that a band as great as underworld had that, for a brief time.............................

negative1 11-22-2015 02:53 PM

Re: born slippy - live versions (listings) [comparisons]
 
i find it interesting that they have *never [i think] played the entire born slippy. nuxx 11 minute version in its entirety live...

they always add some improvs at the end, or middle... and they never do the keyboard solos and drum parts like the final recorded version...

even after 200 something like plays....

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gcoleman99 11-23-2015 01:11 AM

Re: born slippy - live versions (listings) [comparisons]
 
I'm 99% sure they played Nuxx at the Hollywood Bowl gig in June...

Quote:

Originally Posted by negative1 (Post 159100)
born slippy NUXX - 264

[part 1]
===========================================
http://uwlive.rowla.com/gigs/bySong/11

Code:

13/06/2015
NorthSide Festival, Ã…dalen, Aarhus, Denmark                 
31/05/2015
Berlin Festival, Berlin, Germany                 
30/05/2015
Primavera Sound, Barcelona, Spain                 
28/03/2015
dubnobasswithmyheadman Tour, Palladium, Cologne, Germany                 
27/03/2015
dubnobasswithmyheadman Tour, Klokgebouw (STRP), Eindhoven, Netherlands                 
25/03/2015
dubnobasswithmyheadman Tour, Paradiso Grote Zaal, Amsterdam, Netherlands               

 
24/03/2015
dubnobasswithmyheadman Tour, Paradiso Grote Zaal, Amsterdam, Netherlands               

 
23/03/2015
dubnobasswithmyheadman Tour, den Atelier, Luxembourg City, Luxembourg                 
21/03/2015
dubnobasswithmyheadman Tour, Ancienne Belgique, Brussels, Belgium                 
20/03/2015
dubnobasswithmyheadman Tour, Ancienne Belgique, Brussels, Belgium                 
19/03/2015
dubnobasswithmyheadman Tour, Casino de Paris, Paris, France                 
14/03/2015
dubnobasswithmyheadman Tour, The Sage, Gateshead, UK                 
13/03/2015
dubnobasswithmyheadman Tour, Albert Hall, Manchester, UK                 
12/03/2015
dubnobasswithmyheadman Tour, Glasgow Royal Concert Hall, Glasgow, UK                 
07/03/2015
dubnobasswithmyheadman Tour, Brighton Dome, Brighton, UK                 
06/03/2015
dubnobasswithmyheadman Tour, Eventim Apollo, London, UK                 
05/03/2015
dubnobasswithmyheadman Tour, Colston Hall, Bristol, UK                 
08/11/2014
I Love Techno, Flanders Expo, Ghent, Belgium                 
11/10/2014
Royal Festival Hall, London, UK                 
08/10/2014
Lauren Lavern (BBC Radio 6 Music), Maida Vale Studios, London, UK                 
21/06/2014
Midsummer Night's Dream, Serednikovo Manor, Moscow, Russia                 
20/06/2014
The New Arena, St. Petersburg, Russia                 
14/06/2014
Indian Summer Festival, Geestmerambacht, Alkmaar, Netherlands                 
10/08/2013
Open Air Festival, Panenský Týnec, Czech Republic                 
17/03/2013
El Plaza Condesa, Mexico City, Mexico                 
15/03/2013
Vive Latino, Mexico City, Mexico                 
29/09/2012
YouFest, Madrid, Spain                 
10/12/2011
Time Warp, Brabanthallen, 'S-Hertogenbosch, Netherlands                 
31/10/2011
Movement, Torino, Italy                 
03/09/2011
Electric Picnic, Stradbally Hall, Stradball, Ireland                 
27/08/2011
South West Four Weekender, Clapham Common, London, UK                 
21/08/2011
Privilege, Ibiza, Spain                 
12/08/2011
Sonicmania, Makuhari Messe, Tokyo, Japan                 
05/08/2011
Festival Sudoeste, Zambujeira do Mar, Portugal                 
29/07/2011
Global Gathering, Stratford Upon Avon, UK                 
16/07/2011
Sea of Love Festival, Freiburg, Germany                 
15/07/2011
Gurtenfestival, Berne, Switzerland                 
10/07/2011
Neapolis Festival, Naples, Italy                 
09/07/2011
Balaton Sound Festival, Zamardi, Hungary                 
08/07/2011
Exit Feistval, Petrovaradin Fortress, Novi Sad, Serbia                 
06/07/2011
Prague City Festival Afterparty, SaSaZu, Prague, Czech Republic                 
03/07/2011
Main Square Festival, Arras, France                 
02/07/2011
Rock Werchter, Werchter, Belgium                 
18/06/2011
Sónar, Barcelona, Spain                 
30/03/2011
Cream, MFCC, Ta Qali, Malta                 
26/03/2011
Ultra Music Festival, Miami, USA                 
27/11/2010
RDS Simmonscourt, Dublin, Ireland                 
26/11/2010
Barrowlands, Glasgow, UK                 
25/11/2010
Manchester Academy, Manchester, UK                 
20/11/2010
Brixton Academy, London, UK                 
19/11/2010
STRP Festival, Eindhoven, Netherlands                 
18/11/2010
Heineken Music Hall, Amsterdam, Netherlands                 
13/11/2010
I Love Techno, Flanders Expo, Gent, Belgium                 
11/11/2010
FZW, Dortmund, Germany                 
10/11/2010
Muffathalle, Munich, Germany                 
31/10/2010
Hard Haunted Mansion, The Shrine Expo Hall, Los Angeles, USA                 
30/10/2010
4th & B, San Diego, USA                 
29/10/2010
Live 105's Subsonic Spookfest, Cow Palace, San Fransisco, USA                 
27/10/2010
Roseland Ballroom, New York, USA                 
25/10/2010
9:30 Club, Washington DC, USA                 
10/10/2010
AgeHa, Tokyo, Japan                 
08/10/2010
Zepp, Tokyo, Japan                 
07/10/2010
Zepp, Tokyo, Japan                 
06/10/2010
Zepp, Osaka, Japan                 
16/09/2010
The HMV Forum, Kentish Town, London, UK                 
11/09/2010
We Are One Festival, O2 Arena, Berlin, Germany                 
28/08/2010
Open Air Festival, Zurich, Switzerland                 
27/08/2010
Rock En Seine Festival, Paris, France                 
07/08/2010
BBC Radio 1 in Ibiza, Cream @ Privilege, Ibiza, Spain                 
24/07/2010
Wave Love Festival, Livorno, Italy                 
17/07/2010
iTunes Festival, Roundhouse, Camden, London, UK                 
14/06/2010
We Love Sounds, Adelaide, Australia                 
13/06/2010
Winter Sound System, Melbourne, Australia                 
12/06/2010
We Love Sounds, Sydney, Australia                 
11/12/2009
Emirates Palace, Abu Dhabi, UAE                 
12/11/2009
Forum Hall, Moscow, Russia                 
11/11/2009
Boris Trajkovski, Skopje, Macedonia                 
10/11/2009
Belgrade Arena, Belgrade, Serbia                 
06/11/2009
Sala Polivalenta, Bucharest, Romania                 
30/09/2009
Asia World Expo, Hong Kong, China                 
26/09/2009
Taipei World Trade Center, Taipei, Taiwan                 
24/09/2009
Suntec Convention Centre, Suntec City, Singapore                 
19/09/2009
Global Gathering, Seoul, South Korea                 
28/08/2009
Cocoon @ Amnesia, Ibiza, Spain                 
22/08/2009
Creamfields, Lisbon, Portugal                 
12/08/2009
Metropolis, Montreal, Canada                 
11/08/2009
Koolhaus, Toronto, Canada                 
07/08/2009
Fox Theatre, Oakland, CA, USA                 
06/08/2009
The Joint, Las Vegas, USA                 
19/07/2009
Glade Festival, Winchester, UK                 
11/07/2009
Traffic Festival, Torino, Italy                 
09/07/2009
Balaton Sound Festival, Zamárdi, Hungary                 
06/07/2009
Rock For The People, Hradec Kralove, Czech Republic                 
05/07/2009
Love Family Park, Frankfurt, Germany                 
03/07/2009
Montreux Jazz Festival, Montreux, Switzerland                 
02/05/2009
SOS 4.8, Avda Primero de Mayo, Murcia, Spain                 
01/05/2009
MFCC, Ta Qali, Malta                 
04/01/2009
Summadayze Festival, Perth, Australia                 
03/01/2009
Summadayze Festival, Gold Coast, Australia                 
01/01/2009
Summadayze Festival, Melbourne, Australia                 
31/12/2008
Shore Thing, Bondi Beach, Sydney, Australia                 
15/11/2008
I Love Techno, Gent, Belgium                 
01/11/2008
Brixton Academy, London, UK                 
31/10/2008
Brixton Academy, London, UK                 
24/10/2008
Brighton City Festival, Brighton Centre, Brighton, UK                 
30/08/2008
Electric Picnic, Stradbally Hall, Co. Laois, Ireland                 
24/08/2008
Creamfields, Liverpool, UK                 
16/08/2008
Lowlands Festival, Biddinghuizen, Netherlands                 
09/08/2008
Virgin Festival, Baltimore, USA                 
08/08/2008
All Points West Festival, New Jersey, USA                 
27/07/2008
Pentaport Rock Festival, Seoul, South Korea                 
26/07/2008
Fuji Rock Festival, Naeba, Japan                 
19/07/2008
Love Parade, Dortmund, Germany                 
06/07/2008
Rock Werchter, Werchter, Belgium                 
05/07/2008
Wireless Festival, Hyde Park, London, UK                 
04/07/2008
Main Square Festival, Aaras, France                 
10/05/2008
Forward Festival, Valencia, Spain                 
09/05/2008
Forward Festival, Telefónica Arena, Madrid, Spain                 
07/05/2008
Nuits Sonores Festival, Ancienne, Lyon, France                 
03/05/2008
Cracow Screen Festival, Cracow, Poland                 
03/04/2008
Arena Santiago, Santiago, Chile                 
29/03/2008
Ultra Music Festival, Bi-Centenial Park, Miami, USA                 
28/03/2008
Center Stage, Atlanta, USA                 
20/03/2008
Cocoon Club, Frankfurt, Germany                 
29/02/2008
Roundhouse, London, UK                 
28/02/2008
Roundhouse, London, UK                 
08/02/2008
Electronic Beats Festival, Bratislava, Slovakia                 
05/02/2008
Columbiahalle, Berlin, Germany                 
04/02/2008
The Docks, Hamburg, Germany                 
02/02/2008
Tonhalle, Kultfabriek, Munich, Germany                 
31/01/2008
A/B Main Hall, Brussels, Belgium                 
30/01/2008
Heineken Music Hall, Amsterdam, Netherlands                 
29/01/2008
Massilo, Rotterdam, Netherlands                 
28/01/2008
Paladium, Köln, Germany                 
24/11/2007
Oblivion Ball, Makuhari Messe, Tokyo, Japan                 
22/11/2007
Zepp Osaka, Osaka, Japan                 
21/11/2007
Zepp Osaka, Osaka, Japan                 
18/10/2007
Roundhouse, London, UK                 
17/10/2007
Roundhouse, London, UK                 
16/10/2007
Manchester Apollo, Manchester, UK                 
14/10/2007
Rock City, Nottingham, UK                 
13/10/2007
Carling Academy, Glasgow, UK                 
12/10/2007
Northumbria University, Newcastle, UK                 
10/10/2007
UEA, Norwich, UK                 
09/10/2007
Carling Academy, Birmingham, UK                 
08/10/2007
Guildhal, Southampton, UK                 
05/10/2007
Tripod, Dublin, Ireland                 
04/10/2007
Tripod, Dublin, Ireland                 
15/09/2007
Bank of America Pavillion, Boston, USA                 
14/09/2007
Rumsey Playfield, Central Park, New York, USA                 
11/09/2007


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TheBang 11-23-2015 05:33 AM

Re: born slippy - live versions (listings) [comparisons]
 
I'm 99% sure they played Nuxx at every gig since 1996.

gcoleman99 11-23-2015 05:47 AM

Re: born slippy - live versions (listings) [comparisons]
 
No doubt.

negative1 11-23-2015 10:45 AM

Re: born slippy - live versions (listings) [comparisons]
 
i know they have.

but they've never played the recorded NUXX version that is the same as on the single.

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negative1 11-30-2015 06:24 PM

Re: born slippy - live versions (listings) [comparisons]
 
continuing from other thread

Quote:

Originally Posted by holden (Post 159441)
Regarding the NUXX disc, a few observations:

1) the live jams... I realize the song was still in progress in 1994, and that the live versions are heavily improvised, but they sound kind of random to me, by UW standards. That is, overloaded with drum loops (including plenty of 808 hihats), not really coherent. Also,maybe its a product of where they were in terms of live performances at the time, but I felt like a lot of the sample and beats dropped in at random, not in conjunction with Karl's vocals, which even back then we're pretty much fixed for NUXX. I need to revisit the older live boots as I may be forgetting how freeform they really were!

well, at least some of the lyrics seemed to be settling in...

the structure of the song varied, but eventually it became fixed also.



Quote:

2) was NUXX always planned as the BIG single? As its a remix on the original Born Slippy disc and we all know the Trainspotting Legend, I'd think not. So then, anyone else surprised by how many versions of NUXX they dug up for the box set? Then again, with the reel and take names sprinkled about the b sides and dubno rarities, maybe there are many more versions of other tracks, probably a lot of random or unfinished jams....but imagine if your favorite tracks had wildly different versions! Bet it's the case. Yeah, tracks develop a lot over the recording process, or in the case of tracks like ALAF, over the years. But decisions are made and elements are dropped. I'd be interested in hearing songs in a less recognisable state rather than remixes or subtle versions of the final cut.
Just some thoughts!
i doubt it.

it was an experiment, that probably got huge because of the movie,
and the era..

timing...

yes, they could have showcased other songs, but there probaby wouldn't have been enough interest.

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WhiteNoise 11-30-2015 07:07 PM

Re: born slippy - live versions (listings) [comparisons]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBang (Post 159266)
I'm 99% sure they played Nuxx at every gig since 1996.

I think there's one exception, Viva Festival in 1999. It was one of the gigs used in Everything Everything so that may have had something to do with it. And maybe this 2003 gig, although I think the setlist there is incomplete.

The KCRW and Black Label Project gigs also missed NUXX, as well as a few Lemonworld broadcasts, but those weren't proper gigs really.

negative1 12-01-2015 06:09 PM

Re: born slippy - live versions (listings) [comparisons]
 
earliest born slippy with nuxx lyrics:
---------------------------------------------------
http://uwlive.rowla.com/gigs/view/56

Date: 1994-04-08 Event: Sound City Venue:The Tramway City: Glasgow Country: UK

quality
--------
recorded from FM radio, there has been a single
track release of this, and a split track release

setlisting and highlights
--------------------------
a very short, but experimental set.
lots of cool little improvs in the tracks,
and inbetween them.

a little low on treble, but decent bass.

includes one of the earliest versions of
born slippy.nuxx

set:01
------------------------------
1 dark & long (dark train) 10:49
2 cowgirl rez 8:53
3 born slippy 9:31
4 improv dogman go woof 3:18
5 improv mmm skyscraper i love you 5:30

--------------------------
tracks : 5
time : 40min



details
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08/04/1994
Sound City, The Tramway, Glasgow, UK
gigography : http://uwlive.rowla.com/gigs/view/56
=======================================
rtsr tracker
1994-04-08 Sound City 94, The Tramway - Glasgow flac

ftp
1994-04-00 BBC Radio One Sound City - The Tramway, Glasgow, Scotland
mp3, flac
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