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Badger
10-23-2017, 08:22 AM
So the final new fixed remaster is now up and running on the RTSR tracker.
NEW FIXED FINAL REMASTERS (2 Versions)
This torrent now includes a REVERB VERSION - we used a reverb plugin to create more ambiance and make the show sound more stereo than the original mono stream. You can download either the MONO or REVERB versions or both. It's up to you. That's also the reason the file is bigger now.
Maybe just grab one track from the reverb version and see if you like it.
Anyhow here is the info file for the show (MONO VERSION):
Underworld
Live @ Rijksmuseum, Amsterdam
20.10.2017
Facebook Live mono stream
01 - Red Earth (with Between Stars lyrics) [new track]
02 - GWCW [new track]
03 - Dark Train
04 - Pearls Girl
05 - Mmm...Skyscraper, I Love You
06 - Rez
07 - Downpipe (Dub) BIT/INTERLUDE
08 - Dark & Long
09 - Push Upstairs
10 - Two Months Off
11 - Good Morning Cockerel (with Air Towel lyrics)
12 - Lenny Penne (Darren Price Drums Remix)
13 - Low Burn
14 - King Of Snake [EDIT]
15 - Jumbo [EDIT]
16 - Cowgirl
17 - Born Slippy . NUXX
We had three separate sources for this but only used two.
All three had the same dropout issues at all the same exact points.
Our main source was also missing the first 2.5 minutes.
This show was broadcast only in mono (bloody stupid Facebook).
This is the MONO version of our REMASTER
There were a lot of stream issues but mostly they were in the second half
of the set. I have fixed, repaired or patched all of the dropouts.
The only one we can't do anything about is the missing 3 mins from the
end of King Of Snake and the beginning of Jumbo as that was a feed transmission
loss of the stream.
A bloody great set with some new tracks and some nice new twists on old favs.
34 issues (dropouts/glitches/volume problems)
WORK DONE:
General remaster and boost
Red Earth (with Between Stars lyrics) [new track] -
01:49 dropout patched using surrounding bars
02:19 cross to main source
GWCW [new track] (brief Bruce Lee lyrics) -
no issues
Dark Train -
no issues
Pearls girl -
no issues
Skyscraper -
28:03 till end there is a big volume drop = boosted and levelled up
Rez -
33:10 till 33:21 (start) needed a volume boost
Downpipe (Dub) -
no issues
Dark & Long -
46:12 - 46:13 patch a glitch
46:12 - 48:05 big volume drop boosted and levelled up gradually
51:49:157 - 51:49:179 dropout patched from surrounding bars
Push Upstairs -
53:04:506 - 53:04:606 glitch patched
54:31 - 54:36 volume lowered after sudden increase (mic feed seems to drop)
56:39 - 56:40 dropout patched
57:06 dropout patched
Two Months Off -
no issues
[END OF DISC 1 IF BURNING TO CD]
Good Morning Cockerel/Air Towel -
1:06:49 dropout repaired
Lenny Penne (Darren Price Drums Remix) -
01:16:23:146 - 01:16:23:928 several glitches in a row so patched a bigger
section from surrounding bars
01:16:42 - 01:16:43 dropout patched from surrounding bars
01:16:48 dropout patched from surrounding bars
01:17:08 - 01:17:09 dropout patched from surrounding bars
Low Burn -
01:17:50 - 01:17:51 dropout patched from surrounding bars
01:18:53 - 01:18:55 dropout patched
01:19:50:059 - 01:19:50:365 scratch glitch patched using surrounding bars
01:20:14 - 01:20:16 dropout patched
King Of Snake [EDIT] -
01:25:45 - 01:25:46 dropout repaired
01:26:05 dropout repaired
01:26:13 dropout repaired
01:26:48 dropout repaired
Jumbo [EDIT] -
01:33:43 - 01:33:44 dropout patched using surrounding bars
01:34:02 - 01:34:03 dropout patched using surrounding bars
Cowgirl -
01:38:41 - 01:38:42 dropout patched using surrounding bars
01:39:01 - 01:39:02 two dropouts repaired
01:39:35 dropout repaired
01:41:44 dropout repaired
01:41:52 dropout repaired
01:43:43 dropout repaired
Born Slippy -
01:46:22 - 01:46:25 several dropouts in a row so patched whole section with surrounding bars.
01:46:41 - 01:46:45 several dropouts in a row could not use surroundings bars as nothing matched but a section of bars from the very end of the track did match so used those instead.
01:47:28 dropout repaired
Remastering by Bill
Patching & Editing by Matt
Enjoy
Badger
10-23-2017, 08:23 AM
REVERB VERSION INFO FILE
Underworld
Live @ Rijksmuseum, Amsterdam
20.10.2017
-[REVERB VERSION]-
Facebook Live mono stream (with added reverb plugin)
01 - Red Earth (with Between Stars lyrics) [new track]
02 - GWCW [new track]
03 - Dark Train
04 - Pearls Girl
05 - Mmm...Skyscraper, I Love You
06 - Rez
07 - Downpipe (Dub) BIT/INTERLUDE
08 - Dark & Long
09 - Push Upstairs
10 - Two Months Off
11 - Good Morning Cockerel (with Air Towel lyrics)
12 - Lenny Penne (Darren Price Drums Remix)
13 - Low Burn
14 - King Of Snake [EDIT]
15 - Jumbo [EDIT]
16 - Cowgirl
17 - Born Slippy . NUXX
We had three separate sources for this but only used two.
All three had the same dropout issues at all the same exact points.
Our main source was also missing the first 2.5 minutes.
This show was broadcast only in mono (bloody stupid Facebook).
This is the REVERB version of our REMASTER
What we did here was Bill has used a reverb plugin across the whole show
to give a bit more ambiance to the tracks and create more of a stereo effect.
Its your choice to which one you prefer to listen to.
There were a lot of stream issues but mostly they were in the second half
of the set. I have fixed, repaired or patched all of the dropouts.
The only one we can't do anything about is the missing 3 mins from the
end of King Of Snake and the beginning of Jumbo as that was a feed transmission
loss of the stream.
A bloody great set with some new tracks and some nice new twists on old favs.
34 issues (dropouts/glitches/volume problems)
WORK DONE:
General remaster and boost
Red Earth (with Between Stars lyrics) [new track] -
01:49 dropout patched using surrounding bars
02:19 cross to main source
GWCW [new track] (brief Bruce Lee lyrics) -
no issues
Dark Train -
no issues
Pearls girl -
no issues
Skyscraper -
28:03 till end there is a big volume drop = boosted and levelled up
Rez -
33:10 till 33:21 (start) needed a volume boost
Downpipe (Dub) -
no issues
Dark & Long -
46:12 - 46:13 patch a glitch
46:12 - 48:05 big volume drop boosted and levelled up gradually
51:49:157 - 51:49:179 dropout patched from surrounding bars
Push Upstairs -
53:04:506 - 53:04:606 glitch patched
54:31 - 54:36 volume lowered after sudden increase (mic feed seems to drop)
56:39 - 56:40 dropout patched
57:06 dropout patched
Two Months Off -
no issues
[END OF DISC 1 IF BURNING TO CD]
Good Morning Cockerel/Air Towel -
1:06:49 dropout repaired
Lenny Penne (Darren Price Drums Remix) -
01:16:23:146 - 01:16:23:928 several glitches in a row so patched a bigger
section from surrounding bars
01:16:42 - 01:16:43 dropout patched from surrounding bars
01:16:48 dropout patched from surrounding bars
01:17:08 - 01:17:09 dropout patched from surrounding bars
Low Burn -
01:17:50 - 01:17:51 dropout patched from surrounding bars
01:18:53 - 01:18:55 dropout patched
01:19:50:059 - 01:19:50:365 scratch glitch patched using surrounding bars
01:20:14 - 01:20:16 dropout patched
King Of Snake [EDIT] -
01:25:45 - 01:25:46 dropout repaired
01:26:05 dropout repaired
01:26:13 dropout repaired
01:26:48 dropout repaired
Jumbo [EDIT] -
01:33:43 - 01:33:44 dropout patched using surrounding bars
01:34:02 - 01:34:03 dropout patched using surrounding bars
Cowgirl -
01:38:41 - 01:38:42 dropout patched using surrounding bars
01:39:01 - 01:39:02 two dropouts repaired
01:39:35 dropout repaired
01:41:44 dropout repaired
01:41:52 dropout repaired
01:43:43 dropout repaired
Born Slippy -
01:46:22 - 01:46:25 several dropouts in a row so patched whole section with surrounding bars.
01:46:41 - 01:46:45 several dropouts in a row could not use surroundings bars as nothing matched but a section of bars from the very end of the track did match so used those instead.
01:47:28 dropout repaired
Remastering by Bill
Patching & Editing by Matt
Enjoy
potatobroth
10-23-2017, 09:03 AM
awesome! cant wait!
0.1kbs download atm :P 23 weeks ETA - hahah.
Badger
10-24-2017, 01:04 AM
If anyone is having real problems with getting this from the tracker send me a PM ...my internet has been rubbish for the last two weeks so grabbing it might be a bit slow...I have a back up plan...and Dropbox...so message me if you're really having difficulties
spacejunk
10-24-2017, 07:36 AM
Just completed. Thanks to all for this. Much appreciated.
potatobroth
10-24-2017, 11:15 AM
just completed and sharing. this is awesome, thanks so much!
CaliWeed
10-27-2017, 08:43 AM
^^thanks a lot! sharing both
BishBash
10-27-2017, 11:09 AM
923957759170830338
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvMqR4X3TQI
Badger
10-27-2017, 11:45 AM
God damn...now got to do another re-release...I might hang on a bit longer and wait to see if we get Jumbo as well then do the fix..is that ok with everyone..?
TheBang
10-27-2017, 11:46 AM
Wow, OK. I was going to post the video last night, guess I'm glad I didn't. I'll have to see if I can splice this in without having to re-encode. Stereo sound too. Release the whole show!
Still missing the beginning of Jumbo.
Badger
10-27-2017, 12:18 PM
Yeah Todd, that's what I was thinking. Give us the full stereo version.
What's your video like? Does it have the dropouts or is it clean?
WhiteNoise
10-27-2017, 05:36 PM
God damn...now got to do another re-release...I might hang on a bit longer and wait to see if we get Jumbo as well then do the fix..is that ok with everyone..?
That's fine, the less versions you have to put out the better
negative1
10-28-2017, 06:24 PM
God damn...now got to do another re-release...I might hang on a bit longer and wait to see if we get Jumbo as well then do the fix..is that ok with everyone..?
Well, instead of deleting it each time, just issue updates for the tracks
that are changed instead of the whole thing.
later
-1
Badger
10-28-2017, 08:02 PM
the only thing is that sector boundaries will change if the length of tracks changes.
I'll hang on for a little bit and see if we can get Jumbo too so we can fix both tracks and then it might just be updates for every track from KOS on wards.
negative1
10-29-2017, 04:34 PM
the only thing is that sector boundaries will change if the length of tracks changes.
I'll hang on for a little bit and see if we can get Jumbo too so we can fix both tracks and then it might just be updates for every track from KOS on wards.
true, that sounds like a good plan.
later
-1
jetpig
11-01-2017, 12:47 AM
No reason not to wait and see. Anyone anxious enough to hear it with some drops can go to youtube easily enough.
holden
11-03-2017, 12:27 PM
Thanks Badger for your time and efforts.
Just rendered the video to DVD, and even with the few glitches and Jumbo drop out, it holds up pretty well in image resolution and sound on a big screen TV. Not perfect, but certainly not the worst live concert video I've seen....
Hoping for a pro release, but still, really enjoyed this show. Thanks for fixing as best you could and sharing.
Badger
11-01-2018, 03:02 AM
Its just a pain in the ass...lol.
So update:
I've got Bill's new master for the whole show and I'm going to put that up on the tracker soon.
We've pieced together our original reverb version of the full show with the new stereo hour video highlights. We've gone over the original reverb version too and remastered that to better fit in with the new video audio.
I will also put up the remaster audio of the hour long video too if people just want the new video audio.
I'll work on the complete set video this weekend with our new full audio.
Badger
11-01-2018, 06:29 AM
Hi everyone,
a new upgrade audio of the Rijksmuseum, Amsterdam 2017 show is up on the tracker now.
We've used our old REVERB version from last year and edited it with the new audio from the new HD stereo video broadcast of the hour highlights that just came out and remastered the whole thing to match sound levels.
Now we have the complete show without anything missing.
Enjoy.
Let me know what you think.
Matt
Badger
11-01-2018, 11:41 PM
Anyone having any difficulties with the tracker give me a buzz.
Badger
11-02-2018, 06:38 PM
Sorry have had to do a fix for this show as we made an error in patching the missing section from the end of Jumbo (we mixed out Karl saying a thank you and I noticed it when trying to put the new audio onto the video) so we redid the patch and that meant we had to redo the last three tracks of the show. (The last two are just new track mark positions as the new patch at end of Jumbo was a little longer).
The new version is up on the RSTR tracker but if you have already downloaded the show then all you need to do is grab the new last three FIX tracks and they will slot into the other tracks you have already downloaded.
Sorry again for this cock up. Will triple check the next show I put up before putting it out.
Badger
11-02-2018, 06:46 PM
For those that have grabbed the show already here's Dropbox links for the last three tracks to replace the original tracks:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ob3t4ix1vw6ozaz/15%20-%20Jumbo%20%28Rijksmuseum%2017%29%20FIX%20%5BUPGRA DE%20REMASTER%5D.flac?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sqo0a01vc3czhvn/16%20-%20Cowgirl%20%28Rijksmuseum%2017%29%20FIX%20%5BUPG RADE%20REMASTER%5D.flac?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4r2269b7wcbx0a7/17%20-%20Born%20Slippy%20.NUXX%20%28Rijksmuseum%2017%29% 20FIX%20%5BUPGRADE%20REMASTER%5D.flac?dl=0
Badger
11-10-2018, 05:33 PM
So my video for the full Rijksmuseum 2017 show is now up on the RTSR tracker.
Took a bit of work due to the different frame rates in the two source video files (the original Facebook Live Stream 30FPS and the new TV hour highlights video 25FPS) but think I've managed to get it all together so it flows and is smooth.
I have added our remastered audio from this show over the video as well to improve the audio from the videos.
It is a big file but grab it if you can and let me know if there are any issues or what you think of it?
Matt
TheBang
11-10-2018, 09:56 PM
Thanks, Matt. I looked over the 30 fps Facebook video, and it actually has a 25 fps signal inside. The frames are encoded in the following repeating cadence: ABCDEE
So, one second of video would look like this:
ABCDEE FGHIJJ KLMNOO PQRSTT UVWXYY
So, if you drop the duplicated frames, you end up with a smooth 25 fps. So, hopefully your software dropped the correct frames when converting to 25 fps, otherwise, there's going to be some judder. I'll take a look at what happened with your encode once I've finished downloading it.
Badger
11-10-2018, 10:58 PM
Ok cool..let me know...if not then i can see about sorting it so it does....im not that great a video editing expert...just sort of learning so that was new to me what you said.
I was using Sony Vegas Pro 14.
If its wrong could you enlighten me on how to go about fixing it?
Cheers,
Matt
Jamiel
11-11-2018, 11:02 AM
Artwork for the CD version of the show.
https://www.jamielochhead.co.uk/uwrm1.html
Hopefully DVD and Blu-ray versions in the next few days.
Jamie
Badger
11-11-2018, 11:40 AM
Jamie has done some artwork for the show.
https://www.jamielochhead.co.uk/uwrm1.html
https://scontent.fsyd3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/46035856_10155699579772115_131981003521523712_o.jp g?_nc_cat=106&_nc_ht=scontent.fsyd3-1.fna&oh=b591184b2f9fa83640c5d21c6e7b012d&oe=5C8909B1
TheBang
11-11-2018, 03:21 PM
FYI, I merged a bunch of posts and threads about the audio and video all together, because posts about it were all over the place.
Badger
11-12-2018, 01:32 AM
cool, great idea.
spacejunk
11-12-2018, 09:47 AM
Excellent. Thank you sir.
TheBang
11-13-2018, 10:08 PM
Thanks, Matt. I looked over the 30 fps Facebook video, and it actually has a 25 fps signal inside. The frames are encoded in the following repeating cadence: ABCDEE
So, one second of video would look like this:
ABCDEE FGHIJJ KLMNOO PQRSTT UVWXYY
So, if you drop the duplicated frames, you end up with a smooth 25 fps. So, hopefully your software dropped the correct frames when converting to 25 fps, otherwise, there's going to be some judder. I'll take a look at what happened with your encode once I've finished downloading it.
So, the bad news is that the software resolved the 30 fps to 25 fps conversion by blending frames (blending two frames into one). Which would have been fine if it had blended the duplicate frames (two identical frames blended into one would have looked exactly the same). Unfortunately, it did not choose those, so instead you get a lot of frames that have ghosting artifacts. This is especially apparent on fast moves. I've attached an example of what the ghosting looks like on a single frame. (The vpro footage came out perfect, btw.)
Unfortunately, I'm not sure how to designate the correct cadence to Vegas, or if it can even do it. This will require more research.
Badger
11-13-2018, 11:02 PM
ok ...right I think Ive got a code line that I can use with ffmpeg to remove the duplicate frames...I'll put up a small clip from this convert if you can check it?
the line code is : ffmpeg -i input.mkv -vf decimate=cycle=6,setpts=N/25/TB output.mkv
Badger
11-13-2018, 11:48 PM
Here is the link for the 4min test clip of the new convert....could you have a look at this The Bang and see if this looks ok and correct?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4e1vikw8u6ba1tk/uwfbloutputx01.mp4?dl=0
Badger
11-15-2018, 01:52 PM
Todd, you get a chance to check this new clip?
TheBang
11-15-2018, 03:34 PM
Yes, it looks good. I'll send you an e-mail to follow up on a couple things to do.
Badger
11-15-2018, 04:28 PM
Ok cool, thanks
Badger
11-15-2018, 04:30 PM
I can get to work on it this weekend then if you give me those pointers
stimpee
11-16-2018, 11:06 AM
I am seeding the audio for this.
Badger
11-16-2018, 11:31 AM
Just did a bit more digging and when you use the filters in ffmpeg (like the decimate filter) it re-encodes the video.
Thats a bit annoying as that will lose a bit of quality and then i'll have to re-encode again when putting the pieces together in Vegas.
Not sure there is a way round this. After a bit of research it doesnt appear like you can remove duplicate frames without re-encoding.
Any one else have some video editing knowledge of maybe another way of dealing with this?
(getting the 30FPS video down to the correct 25FPS and without losing quality)??
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