2017-10-20 Underworld Rijksmuseum Amsterdam

[darkvoice]

Livestream information:

https://www.facebook.com/underworldlive/videos/vb.21193697848/10155044951617849/?type=2&theater

Quote:
Underworld live at Rijksmuseum LIVESTREAM
One night only, Friday 20th October, live on Underworld's Facebook page
Time Zones:
9-11pm Central Europe
8-10pm UK
3-5pm East coast USA
12-2pm Pacific coast USA
Japan CET +7 hours
Australia CET +9 hours
This will only be available on Facebook, during the live event itself.
#ade #shiningfuture



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Original Post from DarkVoice:

Okay, so this Dutch ADE event is about to be very interesting ;-)

https://www.amsterdam-dance-event.nl/news/2017/10/underworld-to-perform-at-rijksmuseum/5236979/

:-)

[jetpig]

Less than 3 weeks of lead up time, event is listed as 4 hours long, I wonder if theres an opener or if they're just gonna go for it?

[khouri]

Less than 3 weeks of lead up time, event is listed as 4 hours long, I wonder if theres an opener or if they're just gonna go for it?

I think the time will be split between a performance and the seminar referenced in the text.

[TheBang]

Wow, that sounds really cool. Nice promo photo.
Free tickets too, but selection will be random:
https://www.amsterdam-dance-event.nl/program/2017/audio-obscura-x-underworld/5151907/

This is the venue, BTW (capacity 2000):
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Rijksmuseum_Amsterdam_-_Passage?uselang=nl
https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/general-information/building-and-presentation/the-passage

The keynote address is actually two days earlier, and it's an hour long. You can't get into that one unless you buy an expensive conference pass:
https://www.amsterdam-dance-event.nl/program/2017/the-world-of-underworld-process-and-co-production/5237101/

So, the concert performance is actually 4 hours, but I imagine that will include an opener and the main set will probably be 2 hours.

[jetpig]

Messged the promoter. Opening act TBA soon.

Then this morning this was announced http://www.underworldlive.com/news/2017/10/underworld-ade/

They are the keynote speakers too! Talking through partnership and cocreativity over their career and in the 21st century. Backdropped by Simon Taylor doing visuals using previously unseen stuff from the archives.

Good luck to anyone close enough to try and make it through the ticket lottery!

[mark3]

Karl sorta mentioned the keynote a week ago :p (https://karlhyde.underworldlive.com/2017/09/30/saturday-30th-september/)

The third week of October,
A Wednesday,
We’re gonna organise everything,

I can take four people,
There’s only six of us

[stimpee]

Applied for tickets. I really hope i can get one.

[jetpig]

Adding to the evidence that this show will be different than the shows they've been up to of late.


https://www.instagram.com/p/BaG7Q_cHJsU/

[vacant]

First time in four years work haven't sent me to ADE. Can you believe it?!

v.

[TheBang]

So, for the show, the news on UW's site says:

"Before the main event it’s Underworld deconstructed featuring Tom Ravenscroft, so get there for 7pm."

I wonder what that means. Tom spinning UW tunes? Or is this another thing where Rick mans the decks before the show also? Also, I didn't know before that Tom is John Peel's son.

[stimpee]

I listen to Tom's shows on BBC 6Music every week. He has a great 3 hour show on a Friday evening, and a weekly new music show featuring 1 hour of new music. On the 3 hr show he always has a 20-25min guest mix. Last week it was Forest Swords. All available on the site for a month.

[Geo]

Who’s in?
I’m going :D
People who didn’t get tickets, did get a link for a live stream.

[stargurl]

We both entered but neither of us won :(

[darkvoice]

Who’s in?
I’m going :D
People who didn’t get tickets, did get a link for a live stream.

I am not... can you ask them something from the Dirties? Like why their live gigs aren't as surprising anymore due to jamming and song choice? And why they do not release more digital stuff from their archives in their webshop?

[TheBang]

People who didn’t get tickets, did get a link for a live stream.
Can someone post the details?

I am not... can you ask them something from the Dirties? Like why their live gigs aren't as surprising anymore due to jamming and song choice? And why they do not release more digital stuff from their archives in their webshop?
I think he meant the gig, not the keynote. Also, the keynote is over already. And also, I don't think it was a Q&A

[stargurl]

Can someone post the details?
The link has a unique ID at the end of it, but... it just goes to Underworld's facebook page. I guess it'll be a facebook livestream?

[DwarfeD]

Can someone post the details?

I managed to get a ticket as well. But people who didn't got a link for the live video stream which sends you to the Underworld Facebookpage (see attached screenshot). So I guess they will be streaming it on their FB-page.

[jetpig]

Wonder if the stream works for those that didnt sign up or if that link will work for multiple people.

[darkvoice]

I think he meant the gig, not the keynote. Also, the keynote is over already. And also, I don't think it was a Q&A

Ah ok. I would very much liked some answers on these questions.

[Geo]

An interview with Karl regarding the festival can be found here (in Dutch, login required):
https://www.parool.nl/ade/karl-hyde-we-gaan-underworld-opnieuw-uitvinden~a4522373/

Interesting parts thru google translate:
"It will be very different from a typical Underworld concert. When we perform at a festival, we have a fixed programme. We have been working on a parallel version of Underworld for a while, which could provide us with a lot of freedom. We're going to improvise, it's a ninety-minute journey, of which we do not know what the end point is. We bring the music to where we and the public want it to go. We're going to reinvent Underworld."

"We have made a global plan, but it is possible that we rethink everything again at the last moment. Everything is live, but it will look more like a dj set than a concert. And it's about the music, the visuals will be modest."

[purlieu]

Although I dislike the assertion that it's a reinvention instead of 'returning to something closer to what we used to do', that sounds very promising indeed.

[stimpee]

Geo / Dwarfed: I got tickets as did King Of Snake and Stargurl. Meetup?

[Geo]

Sounds like a plan!
Sanblaster is joining me, if the extra ticket I got is transferable...

[stimpee]

Well it says you have to be in there by 8pm. Tom Ravenscroft starts at 7pm. I say meet at Cafe de Spuyt on Korte Leidsedwarstraat at 6pm (its just round the corner from the Rijksmuseum, 300m away). Earlier if possible. I'm going to try and leave work early...

https://i.imgur.com/0tAFZ6b.png

[stargurl]

The ticket gods have smiled upon us! See you all there!

[TheBang]

Livestream information:

https://www.facebook.com/underworldlive/videos/10155044951617849/

Underworld live at Rijksmuseum LIVESTREAM
One night only, Friday 20th October, live on Underworld's Facebook page
Time Zones:
9-11pm Central Europe
8-10pm UK
3-5pm East coast USA
12-2pm Pacific coast USA
Japan CET +7 hours
Australia CET +9 hours
This will only be available on Facebook, during the live event itself.
#ade #shiningfuture

[holden]

Wasn't able to listen in live...
..so, how was the show?

[TheBang]

It starts 13.5 hours from now.

[holden]

As usual, you are correct. I'll do better tomorrow.

[Badger]

Are a few people able to record this stream? Audio and video?

[stimpee]

If you have any techniques on how to capture raw Facebook RTMP streams then please help! Todd / TheBang is working on it but the more the merrier!

[Badger]

I struggled with the live twitter thing from the EM Awards that Orbital played a few weeks ago...but got to set up tonight as it'll be 6am here when it goes live

[lemonjelly]

I'm off to see the wonderful Public Service Broadcasting this evening, however if anyone can capture anything, would be hugely grateful. It has been a long time since march!

PS any links posted here would be great. I know people like popping stuff on the tracker, but I never ever get any joy with that. Probably user error, but seeds are always an issue too. I debated grabbing the lovingly restored 98/99 ally pally show, but prior experience with the tracker has made me reluctant.

[DwarfeD]

Geo / Dwarfed: I got tickets as did King Of Snake and Stargurl. Meetup?

Would have been nice, but since I'll be arriving in A'dam at 18.30u I'm heading straight to the Rijksmuseum :)

[Pappie]

Entered... Didn't win :(

But front row anyway... In front of my screen...

Big shoutout to dirties in A'dam this evening ;-)

[Geo]

Would have been nice, but since I'll be arriving in A'dam at 18.30u I'm heading straight to the Rijksmuseum :)

Considering all the confusion the ticket lottery has caused on the ADE page on Facebook, being there when the doors open might indeed be a good strategy :)

[jetpig]

I'm planning to. I have to leave it unattended though as I will have to head back to work, so we will see how that goes. Using open broadcaster software at obsproject.com

Edit: This post made no sense. I didnt have coffee. I'm gonna capture the using open broadcaster software at obsproject.com I tested it using facebook live last night. Quality was good too. I have to go back to work after I get the recording started so we will see how the recording goes.

[khouri]

Gah, booked for a meeting during the stream. Hopefully someone can work out how to record it! The gear posts certainly made it seem like there'd be some surprises.

[TheBang]

Apparently, Rick is spinning tunes for about 45 minutes before the set. Same stuff he was doing before Surreal Carnival Exp shows. Too bad they haven't started the stream yet.

[DoctorRad]

Says here that it's Tom Ravenscroft (John Peel's son) DJing 'Underworld Deconstructed. Indeed a shame they're not streaming it.

https://www.facebook.com/underworldlive/posts/10155038743187849

[jetpig]

well I'm all set and ready to hit this record button.

[robotusch]

And here we go... :D

[jetpig]

this live setup is reminding me of The Orb's current setup, but scaled up a little bit.

[joethelion]

Wow - really digging this version of 'Between Stars'

Can't wait to hear this again - hoping that someone records this... as I'm at work (at an art gallery)
So I can't really play anything very loudly

[WhiteNoise]

Wow - really digging this version of 'Between Stars'

Take most of the instrumentation away and Karl's lyrics and melodies just SOAR. Wow.

The instrumental of this was played out at some of the Surreal Carnival Experiments earlier this year, with different lyrics.

[jetpig]

I got my software recording, but I'm headed back to work. All SHOULD be fine, but we will see when I get home.

[WhiteNoise]

Kudos to the team filming and directing this as well as the lighting designers. This is gorgeous.

[Badger]

Skyscraper is so fast....lol

[Badger]

What was played after Between Stars? Or was it just a jam?

[WhiteNoise]

What was played after Between Stars? Or was it just a jam?

Felt like a prepared jam, did not recognize it from anything.

Here we go with Rez, have a feeling this is going to be separate from Cowgirl.

Edit: that chirp being on beat is killing me, move it back a half step!!

[Bargo]

This whole show is the kind of Underworld I secretly hope for every time I see them live. It's magnificent.

Also, this version of Air Towel they're playing right now is extremely dope. <3

Also also, it's just filmed extremely fucking well. This should be an Everything Everything 2, honestly.

[Badger]

What's this playing now after two months off?

[Badger]

Wouldn't mind hearing some new tracks though...some Low Burn would be great

[mickstafa]

Very strong set!

[qirex]

I'm surprised it's so quiet on these boards right now. They're absolutely killing it, more jamming than I've seen in quite a while! Production values are top notch as well.

[mickstafa]

This Lenny Penne is the best I've heard

[darktrain]

This whole show is the kind of Underworld I secretly hope for every time I see them live. It's magnificent.

Also, this version of Air Towel they're playing right now is extremely dope. <3

Also also, it's just filmed extremely fucking well. This should be an Everything Everything 2, honestly.

This! All of this! The feeling of not knowing what they'll play next or how they'll make it sound "this time" has been missing for awhile.
I mean, Air Towel!?!

[WhiteNoise]

Wouldn't mind hearing some new tracks though...some Low Burn would be great

They're listening to ya

[iamneorev]

Please tell me someone is recording this, I only just started watching. Missed a bunch :(

[iamneorev]

well that blows, stream went down. i hate Facebook. seriously, they always seem to screw things up.

[iamneorev]

Congrats Facebook, what a way to ruin an amazing concert.

[Badger]

I've had so many dropouts that I think my video might only be good to patch up someone else's video if they had dropouts...my internet provider is going to get a very strongly worded email after this broadcast

[Badger]

Cowgirl going a bit pear-shaped

[WhiteNoise]

01 Unknown (SCE Tivoli 2017/15/03 "All The Birds") with Between Stars lyrics
02 Unknown
03 Nu Train with Dirty intro
04 Pearl's Girl
05 Mmm Skyscraper, I Love You
06 Rez
07 Downpipe (Dub)
08 Dark and Long
09 Push Upstairs
10 Two Months Off
11 Unknown (Air Towel Version)
12 Unknown (Bamboo Version)
13 Low Burn
14 King of Snake
15 Jumbo
16 Cowgirl
17 NUXX

Clearly rehearsed and pre-planned, but loaded with improvization and new material in most tracks. Visuals were great - no wasted screen, just perfect lights, lasers, and gobo projections surrounding the gallery.

I swear I heard bits or characteristics of Bamboo in the Lenne Penne jam so I'm calling it that. This is now the fourth our fifth distinct song / version of a song with those lyrics now?

Karl sang a snippet of Bruce Lee during track 2 and Diamond Jigsaw in Skyscraper.

[philth]

Plenty of technical hiccups but that was really enjoyable. Blending between tracks, different versions, Karl making more noises when he isn't singing... All good.

[qirex]

It's rendered and back up on their facebook now, from the beginning.

[ndrwrld]

i caught it from Pearls Girl on. Only hiccup was at beginning of Jumbo.

That last little bit of Slippy, when Karl had those back stage white lights cutting behind him almost didn't look real...i swear i was having a Ketamine flashback !
Lots of improv, sweet transitions. Lenny Penny. Airtowel. WOW.

US Tour ?

[Badger]

? Where? Link?
It's rendered and back up on their facebook now, from the beginning.

[Bargo]

This probably sounds really dumb but one of the telling things for me that makes this concert 'different' from their previous ones was that Karl actually sang the "ride the train" bits of Dark Train rather than it just playing from their soundbanks. I can't remember the last time I've seen him do that but the absence of it always sticks out for me and bums me out. I love this somewhat manual, things-may-fuck-up-but-who-cares-cuz-we're-jammin kind of Underworld.

Anyway, this show was a blast, thanks UW crew for sharing it with the world.

[TheBang]

It's rendered and back up on their facebook now, from the beginning.
? Where? Link?
If you don't uncheck the option, Facebook automatically converts your live stream to be available on demand once it ends. That's what happened to Underworld's stream, but they didn't mean for it to be available. It was up for a few minutes before they realized it and deleted it. In that short period, I was able to grab a copy of the whole on-demand stream. I'll make it available as soon as I have a chance.

The sad thing about the stream is that Facebook only streams in mono audio. So unbelievably stupid.

[Dirty0900]

I wish they didn't release Bamboo properly.

[Badger]

Yeah Bill recorded the audio and said it was mono...what an absolutely stupid thing to do...why would you do it?

Great to hear you managed to grab the whole video especially after my internet was crapping out so much during the whole show and my video is patchy as hell.

[CaliWeed]

Wonderful to hear there's a grab of the stream - tnx to the combo above/wonderful people:)

[Billy Goat]

I've recorded it all on audacity (I think in stereo) but it went silent at 1:48:05 (just at the start of born slippy!) �� I'm just converting it to mp3 but I'll see if there are buffering glitches etc before posting my copy (if no one else got a perfect version)!
I really enjoyed it up until KOS but started to lose interest a bit then as there wasn't a lot new that grabbed me after that. I loved the Lenne Penne 'improv'!
Cowgirl was awful for me, they should've done the usual Cowgirl/rez version so they could add Juanita in! Overall though I really enjoyed it and can't complain as it was free! ��

[kontakt1968]

Great gig what a treat to have a live stream! I used the xbox game DVR to capture it I think its HD as the files are 9GB only drop out was when the stream went down during KOS at 1hr 32 mins i wonder if the on demand the bang spoke of has no drop out?

[Badger]

I've recorded it all on audacity (I think in stereo) but it went silent at 1:48:05 (just at the start of born slippy!) �� I'm just converting it to mp3 but I'll see if there are buffering glitches etc before posting my copy (if no one else got a perfect version)!

Why are you converting it to MP3? Best to leave it as a wav or flac rather than compressing it.

[Badger]

Great gig what a treat to have a live stream! I used the xbox game DVR to capture it I think its HD as the files are 9GB only drop out was when the stream went down during KOS at 1hr 32 mins i wonder if the on demand the bang spoke of has no drop out?

I have a feeling it will have the dropout...it was a technical issue with the stream so it will probably be in the capture too.

[Billy Goat]

Why are you converting it to MP3? Best to leave it as a wav or flac rather than compressing it.

I've saved it as an audacity file so I can export it in any format I want to but for now I've exported it as mp3 to save space when I put it on my phone to check through it!

[Badger]

Cool

[Georg.]

Audio is in MONO...
No matter how you capture a facebook stream it's always in mono only. :-/

[Badger]

Stupid pointless Facebook...why only broadcast in mono in this day and age?

[Dentaku]

Finally after all these years: the return of improv.

Just returned from an absolutely amazing night at the museum. The sound was awful, but what would you expect from a 19th century passage. Some ppl thought it was a drinking night out (that's what you get when you do tickets this way), and Heineken really should rethink handing out bottled beer, because at the time Nuxx hit, we were kneedeep in'm.
But what an absolute killer of a set and brilliant lightshow. Enjoyed the lot, and great that the finally played some Barking stuff again, although highly tweaked. Bummer that the stream is mono, because this set is definitely the new Everything, Everything.

[holden]

Seems like it was a great gig. Sorry I missed it (twice; thought it was yesterday and was working through it today). Always excited for improv and tracks that are rarely played.

Bless you who recorded the stream ( Mono? Really?!) And let's hope that this gets an official release...

[darmok]

It's rendered and back up on their facebook now, from the beginning.

I snagged the raw audio and video from Facebook before they deleted it (why?) and combined it into a single file. I've never done this before, but I'll try to put it up on RTSR once my account is approved unless someone else has already put up a raw (not re-encoded) version.

The video does drop out near the end of King of Snake and picks up again near the beginning of Jumbo. There are definitely some glitches in Jumbo, too. The audio is only 64kbps AAC, but since it is mono, the quality isn't that bad.

[svirfnebli]

... but I'll try to put it up on RTSR once my account is approved unless someone else has already put up a raw (not re-encoded) version.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

[jetpig]

welp, my software crashed at some point and I didn't get anything. bummer.


edit: checked the crashlog, it crashed at 3:45 local time, show ended at 2, and I was home at 4:30. D:

[purlieu]

Even if, somehow, I don't get to hear a recording of this, the responses in this thread alone are exciting enough to make it feel like the best parts of their live side are returning, and that makes me very happy.

[khouri]

THE NEW EVERYTHING EVERYTHING?

I can't wait to hear this.

[jetpig]

https://www.mixcloud.com/techno_power/underworld-live-at-audio-obscura-rijsk-museum-ade-2017-amsterdam-20-oct-2017/

or

https://www.mixcloud.com/LivesetsForLife/underworld-live-at-audio-obscura-rijsk-museum-ade-2017-amsterdam-20-oct-2017/

[Dirty Saint]

https://www.mixcloud.com/techno_power/underworld-live-at-audio-obscura-rijsk-museum-ade-2017-amsterdam-20-oct-2017/

or

https://www.mixcloud.com/LivesetsForLife/underworld-live-at-audio-obscura-rijsk-museum-ade-2017-amsterdam-20-oct-2017/

Thanks:)

[stimpee]

I'll try to put it up on RTSR once my account is approved unless someone else has already put up a raw (not re-encoded) version.. APPROVED!

[stimpee]

Finally after all these years: the return of improv.

Just returned from an absolutely amazing night at the museum. The sound was awful, but what would you expect from a 19th century passage. Some ppl thought it was a drinking night out (that's what you get when you do tickets this way), and Heineken really should rethink handing out bottled beer, because at the time Nuxx hit, we were kneedeep in'm.
But what an absolute killer of a set and brilliant lightshow. Enjoyed the lot, and great that the finally played some Barking stuff again, although highly tweaked. Bummer that the stream is mono, because this set is definitely the new Everything, Everything. Yeah I hear ya there. The organisation of the event was disastrous. Still 500 people waiting to get in at 8pm (when they said the doors would close), two different VIP/guest list entrances at either sides of the building. Overzealous security being heavy handed. Ful security grope on entering. Knee deep in heineken bottles and boy was it expensive if you wanted one. Also it was packed at the front. No room to dance. People talking ALL the time. Not many dancing. Loads of people smoking.

Having said all that, I was near the front speakers and it sounded great. Great lighting and lasers also. Also Underworld's performance was spot on and they really looked into it. Props to Tom Ravenscroft for the warm up too. Pity I missed most of Rick's warm up set but we heard Blue Bowler again which was nice. Can't wait for that to get a release.

[ndrwrld]

thanks for the Mixcloud stuff.

Yannick, you owe me a glass.

[Badger]

Currently in the middle of a REMASTER of the set to repair a lot of glitches and dropouts and volume drops.

[dubman]

got home, planned to clean, made myself a sandwich first, plopped down to see what was going on, and it had just started.

a lovely surprise. glad to see the dopey screen telling us what song it is gone. some warmer versions of songs (air towel!!) and brilliantly filmed. i got nothing done the entire time.

[superdave]

https://www.mixcloud.com/techno_power/underworld-live-at-audio-obscura-rijsk-museum-ade-2017-amsterdam-20-oct-2017/

or

https://www.mixcloud.com/LivesetsForLife/underworld-live-at-audio-obscura-rijsk-museum-ade-2017-amsterdam-20-oct-2017/

dude...amazing! here here for jetpig!!

altho i didnt get tix, i felt like i was there, and can now relive the experience sonically.

really do hope that one of you dirties got a video feed you are going to share with us....that would be so sweet.....

cheers:)

[darmok]

APPROVED!

Thank you! It's up, assuming I did it properly.

[crank]

First track/
Between Stars- holy mackerel. SO MIND MELTING. really a massive improvement from Album version.

[lloyd]

Thnx for upping.
Good that they stepped away from the karaoke festival sets.

[crank]

Thnx for upping.
Good that they stepped away from the karaoke festival sets.

Wonder where Pricey was...

[Badger]

He was there ...https://scontent.fmel1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22540229_10154825605617115_2222097364942345009_n.j pg?oh=000f977282bda9a803c24b926e016c63&oe=5A789450

[Badger]

Plus thought you might all like to see this...https://scontent.fmel1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22730551_10154825605597115_4570222477666446133_n.j pg?oh=6bb5bfb868dc298380c0a1b7f839b6cd&oe=5A69E7E2

[Badger]

Anyone know what the new track "GWCW" is or stands for or is it nothing yet?

[negative1]

Is this discussion moving to moments, now that the tracks and listing are out?

i was looking for information over there, and didn't see anything.

later
-1

[Badger]

thats probably a good call

[Billy Goat]

Plus thought you might all like to see this...https://scontent.fmel1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22730551_10154825605597115_4570222477666446133_n.j pg?oh=6bb5bfb868dc298380c0a1b7f839b6cd&oe=5A69E7E2

Is it just me or doesn't a setlist mean the gig wasn't as improvised as it was made out to be? �� Just saying!

[Badger]

That version of Lenny Penne is the unreleased Darren Price Drums Remix

[khouri]

THAT
WAS
MORE
LIKE
IT!

Not only the best show they've done in this decade, but one of their best shows of their careers.

Rick + Karl -- we've been very hard on you on these boards but you've knocked us all on our asses with this performance. So many surprises, from the new arrangements to Karl doing so much of the music to the new gear; this is the Underworld we love. You said "This was an interesting experiment" -- not interesting, SUCCESSFUL. Resoundingly. Please don't stop.

[TheBang]

Thank you! It's up, assuming I did it properly.
Thanks. I've pulled it for now though. I'm going to put one up soon with slightly tweaked audio sync and chapters markers for the songs.

Wonder where Pricey was...
Pricey hasn't been on stage since the end of the US dates last year.

That version of Lenny Penne is the unreleased Darren Price Drums Remix
Well-spotted.

[nelfun5]

Is it just me or doesn't a setlist mean the gig wasn't as improvised as it was made out to be? Just saying!
This.

And the setlist looks pretty similar to the one from their 2016 tour too... (http://uwlive.rowla.com/gigs/view/542) I don't quite get the improv fuss around this gig although I'd be the first advocate for more improv and less pauses between tracks on stage.

[jetpig]

I've not listened past the first two songs yet, but they can choose songs and improv those songs, no? The bits I've heard definitely FELT different than the last few years, more like 07-09. I guess we will see what they do going forward. Whatever the case, the reception for this set has been phenomenal amd whatever they did differently they should keep doing... differently.

[stimpee]

Just because they have imrpovised a bit doesnt mean they never had a setlist. But they used to make the setlist every day and it would be similar but not identical.

Todd: I dont mind waiting but not too long!

[King of Snake]

Is it just me or doesn't a setlist mean the gig wasn't as improvised as it was made out to be? �� Just saying!

Yeah well, I guess it wasn't improvised on the fly as far as which tracks they played and in what order. But at least it felt more improvised within the tracks, there was some mixing together from one track to the next (although mostly still just a fade in/fade out) and it wasn't just playing straight album versions of everything but actually some interesting re-interpretations (like Between Stars and Air Towel).

So is it back to the old glory days of full improv sets? Certainly not. And if I were Underworld I would mix and mash it up a lot more than they do still, but it sure did feel better and "more Underworld" than most of their sets from the past 10 years.

[Badger]

I've put up a REMASTERED and FIXED version of the show on the RTSR tracker.

I've patched or repaired all the 33 dropouts/glitches/volume drops.

It might get taken down if a better cleaner source turns up but it's also track marked already and includes some extra FADE tracks if you want to burn to CD.

[Badger]

To give you an idea. Here's my info file:

Underworld

Live @ Rijksmuseum, Amsterdam

20.10.2017

Facebook Live stream

01 - Red Earth (with Between Stars lyrics) new track
02 - GWCW (new track)
03 - Dark Train
04 - Pearls Girl
05 - Mmm...Skyscraper, I Love You
06 - Rez
07 - Downpipe (Dub) BIT/INTERLUDE
08 - Dark & Long
09 - Push Upstairs
10 - Two Months Off
11 - Good Morning (with Air Towel lyrics) new track
12 - Lenny Penne (Darren Price Drums Remix)
13 - Low Burn
14 - King Of Snake
15 - Jumbo
16 - Cowgirl
17 - Born Slippy . NUXX

We had three separate sources for this but only used two.
All three had the same dropout issues at all the same exact points.
Our main source was also missing the first 2.5 minutes

There were a lot of stream issues but mostly they were in the second half
of the set. I have fixed, repaired or patched all of the dropouts.
The only one we can't do anything about is the missing 3 mins from the
end of King Of Snake and the beginning of Jumbo as that was a feed transmission
loss.

A bloody great set with some new tracks and some nice new twists on old favs.

33 issues (dropouts/glitches/volume problems)

WORK DONE:

General remaster and boost

Red Earth (with Between Stars lyrics) -
02:19 cross to main source

GWCW (new track) (brief Bruce Lee lyrics) -
no issues

Dark Train -
no issues

Pearls girl -
no issues

Skyscraper -
28:03 till end there is a big volume drop = boosted and levelled up

Rez -
33:10 till 33:21 (start) needed a volume boost

Downpipe (Dub) -
no issues

Dark & Long -
46:12 - 46:13 patch a glitch
46:12 - 48:05 big volume drop boosted and levelled up gradually
51:49:157 - 51:49:179 dropout patched from surrounding bars

Push Upstairs -
53:04:506 - 53:04:606 glitch patched
54:31 - 54:36 volume lowered after sudden increase (mic feed seems to drop)
56:39 - 56:40 dropout patched
57:06 dropout patched

Two Months Off - no issues

[END OF DISC 1 IF BURNING TO CD]

Good Morning/Air Towel -
1:06:49 dropout repaired

Lenny Penne (Darren Price Drums Remix) -
01:16:23:146 - 01:16:23:928 several glitches in a row so patched a bigger
section from surrounding bars
01:16:42 - 01:16:43 dropout patched from surrounding bars
01:16:48 dropout patched from surrounding bars
01:17:08 - 01:17:09 dropout patched from surrounding bars

Low Burn -
01:17:50 - 01:17:51 dropout patched from surrounding bars
01:18:53 - 01:18:55 dropout patched
01:19:50:059 - 01:19:50:365 scratch glitch patched using surrounding bars
01:20:14 - 01:20:16 dropout patched

King Of Snake -
01:25:45 - 01:25:46 dropout repaired
01:26:05 dropout repaired
01:26:13 dropout repaired
01:26:48 dropout repaired

Jumbo -
01:33:43 - 01:33:44 dropout patched using surrounding bars
01:34:02 - 01:34:03 dropout patched using surrounding bars

Cowgirl -
01:38:41 - 01:38:42 dropout patched using surrounding bars
01:39:01 - 01:39:02 two dropouts repaired
01:39:35 dropout repaired
01:41:44 dropout repaired
01:41:52 dropout repaired
01:43:43 dropout repaired

Born Slippy -
01:46:22 - 01:46:25 several dropouts in a row so patched whole section with surrounding bars.
01:46:41 - 01:46:45 several dropouts in a row could not use surroundings bars as nothing matched but a section of bars from the very end of the track did match so used those instead.
01:47:28 dropout repaired

Remastering by Bill

Patching & Editing by Matt

Enjoy

[stimpee]

Thnx for upping.
Good that they stepped away from the karaoke festival sets.Hey Lloyd! welcome back! Come out of retirement!

[TheBang]

Here's some parts of the preshow:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRQxzVKjS7g

I guess I don't quite understand what's happening. Rick is mixing bits over Tom's beats? You can hear Trim vocals at 0:30.

[TheBang]

From the keynote address. A Karl summary of everything from EE through Barbara Barbara

https://www.facebook.com/narrationsmusic/videos/1715454325154101/

It'd be nice if a video of the whole thing would surface.

[Ploder]

Here's some parts of the preshow:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRQxzVKjS7g

I guess I don't quite understand what's happening. Rick is mixing bits over Tom's beats? You can hear Trim vocals at 0:30.

The full show's here. Not sure if it's been posted. My search came up empty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at6kt17HMNY

All the glitches and dropouts are there, too. YAY!

[jetpig]

From the keynote address. A Karl summary of everything from EE through Barbara Barbara

https://www.facebook.com/narrationsmusic/videos/1715454325154101/

It'd be nice if a video of the whole thing would surface.

There it is then, "They wanted us to become a stadium techno band, but that sounded like cheese."

The jumpy chronology of his story makes things odd. He talks about the dark times while talking about the VW project (2013) and then goes on to mention Danny boyle calling about two projects in what would have been 2010 as the start of better times.

Very illuminating, regardless.

[negative1]

thanks to all the people commenting on this, and for the files, streams, and videos.

i didn't want to be pedantic about it.... but thanks for moving it to here.

===========

i'm still absorbing a lot of the tracks, and listening and watching it again.

i'll admit, i'm glad that there is more improv, and some new tracks in there.

is this going to be a return to an earlier style? (probably not, but who knows).

it's good to see that at least they can experiment more, given the current circumstances.
i know a lot of bands are in this situation (new order did some experimental gigs, with
some return to older songs too).

i don't think festivals or regular concerts are too conducive too this,either due to the
'casual fans', the management, or logistical issues with the bands. but it is what it is.

thanks underworld for bringing back some memories of what it used to be like.

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[nelfun5]

Just noticed the remaster upload as been deleted on the tracker. Is there a better version in the pipeline?

[TheBang]

Badger deleted it with the note: "some errors found in sector boundaries"

So, I assume he'll reupload it soon.

[Pappie]

Well, I must say that it was a while ago I started to get excited during a Underworld concert...
The only thing still bothering me is indeed the people talking all the time, not dancing and holding their phones up the whole time...
These days people have muscles pain in their arms instead of their legs after a concert :)

Had a nice chat during the gig too ;-)

Amsterdam always brings back memories :)

[Badger]

Yeah sorry. Late night rushing to get it up and I forgot to check the sector boundaries and also noticed I had put the wrong track 1 up instead of a patched version. Should have it back tp later tonight. And we've also done a second version using a reverb plug in to add a bit of ambience to the mono recording. Both versions will be in the folder just download whichever one you prefer or both if you want.
Also hoping to have the Temptation gig with the new sources for two tracks back up on the tracker by the end of the week too.
Sorry for the messing about with both shows to those who had already downloaded them.

[Badger]

anyone have a clue what the proper title for the new track two might be?

02 "GWCW"?

[Badger]

Right, new final fixed remaster is up on the RTSR tracker.

See other post.

https://www.borndirty.org/forums/showthread.php?t=18441

[bazwint]

Wow!! That was immense. Hope they contimue to "experiment"

[River of Bass]

thank you all for your impressions and videos and thoughts.
amazing gig!
the second track reminds me of "old-school-underworld-in-the-early-90s".
it sounds great.

[BishBash]

01 - Red Earth (with Between Stars lyrics) new track

It's more than the Lyrics though isn't it? It's the vocals or the song, with new synths underneath (which are apparently called Red Earth). So it's a sort of mash up.

[Lx_Nen]

...using a reverb plug in to add a bit of ambience to the mono recording...

At the risk of setting off a third version...

This Izotope's Ozone Imager plug-in is free, and does a pretty good job of spreading out a mono signal: https://www.izotope.com/en/products/master-and-deliver/ozone/ozone-imager.html

Set it to Width 50, Stereoise On, Amount 1.0 and to my ears it work wonders for this for this gig.

[TheBang]

At the risk of setting off a third version...

This Izotope's Ozone Imager plug-in is free, and does a pretty good job of spreading out a mono signal: https://www.izotope.com/en/products/master-and-deliver/ozone/ozone-imager.html

Set it to Width 50, Stereoise On, Amount 1.0 and to my ears it work wonders for this for this gig.
This is pretty cool. It certainly opens up the soundstage, but using the settings you suggested, I end up with a stereo image that has a bit of a left channel bias. Do you know what that's about?

https://i.imgur.com/yHnCP6p.png

I also feel like I'm listening to out of phase audio, and it's a bit fatiguing after a few minutes.

Edit: Bumping the Stereoise anywhere from 3.0 to 20.0 addressed the imaging issue. There certainly is a spectrum of phasing as you scrub through that range. I'll have to listen more, but maybe about 7.0 sounds best to me?

[Badger]

Yeah those original settings makes it way to unbalanced to the left side and sounds awful.

Does it sound better with your settings Todd?

This could be an interesting tool for the future...

[Lx_Nen]

Odd, when I first tried anything other than 1.0 had phase issues, but 1.0 sounded great.... but now I'm getting the phase/pan issues at 1.0 and 3-20 fixes it, same as you guys. Possibly a bug?

[King of Snake]

btw it's worth noticing that the desk setup for this show looked a bit different again from recent shows. Karl now had a bigger desk for himself facing the crowd, and he was firing off some samples from a CDJ again, something that was missing in the past few years (and added a nice extra bit of live element). He also actually brought and played his guitar which is also something I think we haven't seen him do much at all lately (except for bass guitar on the Dubnobass tour).

[DaddyAdv]

btw it's worth noticing that the desk setup for this show looked a bit different again from recent shows. ...

Also, Rick had another "station" left of him.
It seems all three computers (running Ableton Live as before) are now also complemented by NI Maschine and iPad controllers.

https://i.imgur.com/kkzr6mX.png

https://picload.org/view/drgidlgi/vlcsnap-2017-10-26-20h59m43s46.png.html

[jetpig]

Looks like ricks setup changed again from the last pre-show gear post on Instagram. He had both the Maschine controllers to his right and nothing separating him and Karl then.

I hope Darren comes back on stage if for no other reason than more free hands to do live bits. Allow rick to turn away from the desk and pound on the controllers and such.

[nelfun5]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvMqR4X3TQI
vid description: "Half way through this track, the internet collapsed and the livestream went down, so here it is in full"

So correct me if I'm wrong. They have recorded the FULL gig in pristine 1080p, perfect lossless stereo, top notch (live?) editing but we will ONLY get KOS because the crappy mono 64kbps AAC livestream KINDA worked during the other tracks?

They better be kidding us.

[darkvoice]

Okay so who is this around 1.19 in the vid looking at a screen?

[WhiteNoise]

vid description: "Half way through this track, the internet collapsed and the livestream went down, so here it is in full"

So correct me if I'm wrong. They have recorded the FULL gig in pristine 1080p, perfect lossless stereo, top notch (live?) editing but we will ONLY get KOS because the crappy mono 64kbps AAC livestream KINDA work during the other tracks?

They better be kidding us.

Never mind that we lost half of Jumbo too. I think they did this just to troll Badger.

[TheBang]

Okay so who is this around 1.19 in the vid looking at a screen?
That's Malcolm. He's the stage manager and all things technical for the band since 1992.

[TheBang]

Never mind that we lost half of Jumbo too. I think they did this just to troll Badger.
Ha, yeah, I compared this to the web feed, and it only gains us literally about 15 seconds of new footage. Most of the loss is from Jumbo.

[nelfun5]

I'm genuinely interested in what would be their reason to professionally record the whole concert and not give it a proper release afterwards?
Exclusive agreement with Facebook?

[Badger]

Yeah I think they are trolling me...lol

[purlieu]

I'm genuinely interested in what would be their reason to professionally record the whole concert and not give it a proper release afterwards?
Exclusive agreement with Facebook?

Don't they do this a lot, though? I'm sure the Carnival Experiment stuff was filmed too.

[stargurl]

I came across some nice pics of the night: https://djmag.com/news/underworld-23-insanely-amazing-photos-their-epic-ade-performance

[negative1]

I'm genuinely interested in what would be their reason to professionally record the whole concert and not give it a proper release afterwards?
Exclusive agreement with Facebook?

for the last few tours that i remember, they filmed every concert they played
live.

probably just to keep around in case they decide to release something in the
future.

but maybe just for their own archives.

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[Dentaku]

Plus thought you might all like to see this...
https://scontent.fmel1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22730551_10154825605597115_4570222477666446133_n.j pg?oh=6bb5bfb868dc298380c0a1b7f839b6cd&oe=5A69E7E2

Any thoughts why it has the wrong date ? Propably final rehearsel a week prior, or...

[markreed]

I'm genuinely interested in what would be their reason to professionally record the whole concert and not give it a proper release afterwards?
Exclusive agreement with Facebook?

Music DVD sales are quite pitifully small, to be honest.

[Badger]

but a small priced download on their store would work well me thinks....more bands should do that with their live recording, audio and video.

[nelfun5]

but a small priced download on their store would work well me thinks....more bands should do that with their live recording, audio and video.
Amen to that. They even put out a little flashback teaser of the event just to play a bit with their fantastic rushes. A really pity we'll probably never see the rest of them...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USlIESTyrQQ

[TheBang]

Audio on that teaser is from Everything, Everything though. :D

[darkvoice]

Just a thought: it feels like this board is so much fan driven speculation without any strings to the band / management. We have so much questions and request which aren't answered. All the official news is done by their record label (like the bogus newsletter with extra Xmas deals) and does not say much.

Isn't it time we can ask them in an interview or so? Any Dirties here able to reach out?

Just saying... 😁

Just saying...

[lloyd]

Another 2, 3 , 4 hour radioshow (with new vinyl from the shops, sneek peeks at new stuff, 'the soon to be famous '30 Minutes of Improv Heaven' and OPEN THE VAULTS history lesson about the building of our fav old tracks) incl Q&A via a (working, non java. It's facebook nowdays I guess?) chat would be nice.
Would be nice to hear Danielle shout 'Underworld sucks' again (Did she say sucks?? no SOCKS!)

[stimpee]

Hey Lloyd! welcome back! where were you? I think also that instead of Karl doing 6music shows, some UW related radio would be great. Similar to the shows they did 10 years ago or more. we were all on the IRC and broadcasting on dirtyradio...

[TheBang]

I think that's what he was reminiscing about.

[darkvoice]

But nobody an email address of the members somewhere 😁?

[stimpee]

Did we have a decent video rip yet?

[holden]

but a small priced download on their store would work well me thinks....more bands should do that with their live recording, audio and video.

And here's the thing...back in the old days ( talking about early to mid 00's), Underworld used to post a fair amount of live, exclusive tracks for free, some prior to official release. And, the LiveHereNow series from 2007+ was an amazing record of the evolving setlist and included some really great live versions of rarer tracks at a reasonable price.

Tomorrow I turn 38. The way we consume music has changed a lot in my time. Much as I pine for those olden times, I think at this point, we are lucky that Rick and Karl are still occasionally producing music. Maybe one day, they'll release the floodgates of their live archives. But as someone who has over 100 bootlegs, there's only so many surprises and different versions. How many times do you need to hear NUXX? Yeah, I love those rare deep tracks, but they're rarer still post 2010. I'd much rather have studio archives and unreleased tracks at this point.

[lloyd]

Been busy with other things, race circuit mainly, we've had 18 court cases about environment (angry neighbor) etc to tackle 4 down 14 to go. Ears still f'ed of course so no live shows for me while I want to hear as long as I can in later life.

PG from Amsterdam gig now on YT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwTPqfqGrvQ

[domsgotsideburns]

i put up a video upload of the King of Snake performance from this gig - it has no longer been available on their youtube channel for unknown reasons, yet, it's still up on their facebook page...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W3C1drr7TI

[Badger]

Apologies if this has already come up but has everyone seen this?

https://3voor12.vpro.nl/update~ddebe0a3-ee77-4e66-8be0-b0f51ac7524a~kijk-terug-underworld-onder-rijksmuseum-op-ade17~.html?fbclid=IwAR2suzAR8P2NzoEv_3QIC9m1I8gP-dTCwoOVW0TYHiOpy6ndqFfyH40stec

Having difficulties trying to grab this off that webpage....anyone able to grab this video?

It was broadcast on Dutch TV last weekend before going up on this webpage...does anyone have a recording from Dutch TV? That might be better quality if its around?

It includes the missing piece of video/audio from end of KOS and beginning of Jumbo so we would be able to construct a FULL COMPLETE set if we can grab this.

[jetpig]

Here's the direct link to video: https://content10c4c.omroep.nl/urishieldv2/l27m39e726425f93da56005bd13e71000000.15c2719f07fb4 d0faa3fc59a67178404/vpro/protected/media/world/2018/10/24/WO_VPRO_13119337_18-52-43.mp4?md5=6fd77567f81b2ad19e7ecd8449eb1377&t=5bd13dc1

From there I just right clicked and saved as. 4.3 gb file that is downloading as I type. :) Thanks for finding this, too bad it's missing the first bit. I will leave the video-stitching to someone more practiced than myself.

Apologies if this has already come up but has everyone seen this?

https://3voor12.vpro.nl/update~ddebe0a3-ee77-4e66-8be0-b0f51ac7524a~kijk-terug-underworld-onder-rijksmuseum-op-ade17~.html?fbclid=IwAR2suzAR8P2NzoEv_3QIC9m1I8gP-dTCwoOVW0TYHiOpy6ndqFfyH40stec

Having difficulties trying to grab this off that webpage....anyone able to grab this video?

It was broadcast on Dutch TV last weekend before going up on this webpage...does anyone have a recording from Dutch TV? That might be better quality if its around?

It includes the missing piece of video/audio from end of KOS and beginning of Jumbo so we would be able to construct a FULL COMPLETE set if we can grab this.

[Badger]

That link is coming up as a 403 forbidden error?

[TheBang]

Wow, this is fantastic quality!

I guess the URLs expire. One way to get it is to open the inspector on Chrome before hitting play on the video. Click the network tag, and then enter "mp4" in the Filter field. Start playing the video, and you'll see one URL appear. Copy that URL and that's you link to download the video.

It includes the missing piece of video/audio from end of KOS and beginning of Jumbo so we would be able to construct a FULL COMPLETE set if we can grab this.
But the best thing is that this is all in stereo. This would completely replace the previous audio.

[Badger]

Ok cool...I'll give that a go

[Badger]

But the best thing is that this is all in stereo. This would completely replace the previous audio.

But it's only an hour of the show so still only half of it in stereo.

I'm talking to Bill (my Orbital OMT remastering guy) about getting this spliced into our original remaster if we can.

So will look at doing the audio first and then maybe trying to get the video done too.

[TheBang]

I thought it was a continuous hour, but I didn't realize that it was songs plucked from throughout the show. At least it's a continuous run of the last 5 songs of the set, which includes the outage from the broadcast.

The audio is 310 Kbps AAC. That is practically lossless. It sounds really good. The video bitrate is huge too.

[Badger]

Yeah it was a huge 2 hour show.

01 - Red Earth (with Between Stars lyrics) [new track]
02 - GWCW [new track]
03 - Dark Train
04 - Pearls Girl
05 - Mmm...Skyscraper, I Love You
06 - Rez
07 - Downpipe (Dub) BIT/INTERLUDE
08 - Dark & Long
09 - Push Upstairs
10 - Two Months Off
11 - Good Morning Cockerel (with Air Towel lyrics)
12 - Lenny Penne (Darren Price Drums Remix)
13 - Low Burn
14 - King Of Snake [EDIT]
15 - Jumbo [EDIT]
16 - Cowgirl
17 - Born Slippy . NUXX
That was the show and the BOLD text is whats in this new one hour show.

And yeah this quality is bloody great...would kill to get the full 2 hr show uncut like this.

Have had a quick look and test and think this could be patched/spliced into our original remaster with just a little work. The start and ends of the sections could be easily crossfaded into our version we did last year. Just waiting to hear back from Bill once he's had a full look at it. But we can fix those edits of KOS and Jumbo which is awesome.

Then will have to look at tackling the video edit which might be a bit trickier and using the new audio.

[bazwint]

A thing of beauty. Thanks.

[Badger]

Just wait till we piece it together with the rest of the show....

[Badger]

The video could be difficult as the original stream was 30fps and the new video is 25fps.

Anyone know the best way to splice them together without loss of quality?

[negative1]

Here's the direct link to video: https://content10c4c.omroep.nl/urishieldv2/l27m39e726425f93da56005bd13e71000000.15c2719f07fb4 d0faa3fc59a67178404/vpro/protected/media/world/2018/10/24/WO_VPRO_13119337_18-52-43.mp4?md5=6fd77567f81b2ad19e7ecd8449eb1377&t=5bd13dc1

From there I just right clicked and saved as. 4.3 gb file that is downloading as I type. :) Thanks for finding this, too bad it's missing the first bit. I will leave the video-stitching to someone more practiced than myself.

I don't think the link or the original works anymore.

can someone share this on the tracker. or gdrive, etc.

thanks

later
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[jetpig]

This link still works for me. If nothing else search for underworld on 3voor.





https://3voor12.vpro.nl/update~ddebe0a3-ee77-4e66-8be0-b0f51ac7524a~kijk-terug-underworld-onder-rijksmuseum-op-ade17~.html?fbclid=IwAR2suzAR8P2NzoEv_3QIC9m1I8gP-dTCwoOVW0TYHiOpy6ndqFfyH40stec



I don't think the link or the original works anymore.

can someone share this on the tracker. or gdrive, etc.

thanks

later
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[negative1]

hmm, the stream works,
but the l direct link says this:
WO_VPRO_13119337_18-52-43.mp4 Failed - Forbidden

later
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[TheBang]

The direct link to the video file is dynamic for your session and expires. If you want the direct link to download, you have to extract it yourself from the webpage. Any link that anyone gives you will either be expired on not specific to your session.

[negative1]

The direct link to the video file is dynamic for your session and expires. If you want the direct link to download, you have to extract it yourself from the webpage. Any link that anyone gives you will either be expired on not specific to your session.

thanks,

sorry i'm making it sound so hard.
when i checked earlier, the stream kept getting broken up
into little fragments so i couldn't get the proper URL.

but now, it seems to have captured the right one.

getting rusty, in my old age.

later
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[jetpig]

Sadly it seems that this file is no longer up on facebook. Did anyone pull it for themselves, by chance?

From the keynote address. A Karl summary of everything from EE through Barbara Barbara

https://www.facebook.com/narrationsmusic/videos/1715454325154101/

It'd be nice if a video of the whole thing would surface.

[kensey]

Someone has helpfully put this up on Youtube now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co7hnWDmOR8

I just wish this was the norm for Underworld live shows again. It's phenomenal. It really felt like they'd realised what a lot of the fans missed about their performances. But sadly I think it was a one off.