2017-03-13/14/15 TivoliVredenburg, Utrecht, Holland

[stimpee]

Placeholder: Underworld to play Tivoli in Utrecht.

Event here: https://www.tivolivredenburg.nl/nl/agenda/detail/6323/Underworld

[Geo]

Going both nights, Stimpee? ;)
How about you, KoS?

[stimpee]

We are both going to both nights!

[TheBang]

I wish UW would play in my backyard. :mad:

[Geo]

March 13 & 14 are sold out.
A third show in the same venue has just been announced, on March 15!

I got tix for Tuesday :D

[stimpee]

Got tickets for Monday and Tuesday. I may have a spare for one of the dates. lets see.

Havent bought for Wednesday... yet. But how can i not go when they are playing 200m from my house?

[stargurl]

We've got tickets for Monday and Tuesday, not sure which we'll actually end up going to, might end up being both.
Someone-who-isn't-me bought the tickets and somehow managed to end up with four for Monday, so if anyone's looking...

[King of Snake]

Ok, the dates are getting closer. Next week is the week. 3 Days of Underworld madness in the brand spanking new Tivoli Vredenburg concert venue, just a stones' throw away from my house (and even closer for Stimpee!).

Today it has been confirmed (https://www.facebook.com/events/328600647473970/permalink/414651025535598/) that these shows will follow the new setup as announced for the Alexandra Palace gig, with Rick doing some kind of warmup session which sounds mouth-wateringly interesting:
"Underworld take over TivoliVredenburg for 3 nights from Monday.
Rick Smith kicks things off at 7.15pm performing from the middle of the room, deconstructed and re-conceived tracks from a deep-dive into the Underworld catalogue, alongside new and improvised work written specifically for the show by Rick."

Tijdschema:
19:00 uur deuren open
19:15 uur Rick Smith
20:45 uur Underworld

So you better arrive early!

So which Dirts, apart from Stimpee and me, are going to be attending?
On monday and tuesday I am working from home so will have some time for pre-gig meetup and drinks (there's a pretty nice bar in the Tivoli building).

[darkvoice]

Yes! This is good news!

[darkvoice]

Confirmed where? Do not see any news on Facebook or underworldlive.com?

[King of Snake]

Uhm, it's linked and even quoted in my post. It's from the venue's official facebook event page.

[stargurl]

Reporting for duty on Monday and Tuesday!

Still have one spare for Monday... if it wasn't for this thread getting bumped, I never would have remembered that we had spares!

[Geo]

See you Tuesday :)

[jetpig]

In impatient to live vicariously!
Experiences?
Set list? Ive seen nuxx,cowgirl, ring road, juanita, I exhale, cups, push, and dark train so far. (That screen is a wonder!) what else?

How was rick's opener?

Hope everyone had a blast.

[ndrwrld]

setlist ????????

[stargurl]

Setlist (spoilers! And possibly mistakes!): http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/underworld/2017/tivolivredenburg-ronda-utrecht-netherlands-7bf93ec4.html
Ring Road was the Minneapolis version

[Troy McClure]

Cups (full version)
https://youtu.be/Eo2NoAE-9Rk

Great audio and video... Props to who uploaded it.

Jason

[darkvoice]

Really good show. Lot of Beaucoup Fish songs (smart because of their upcoming box set). More tweaking and improvised sounds and was it me or was it more Rick Smith in the spotlight this time?
He seemed to be enjoying it more than Karl??

The warm up from Rick was nice. Mellow stuff / remixes up to a long piano track I do not know before the live show. Loved it!

[King of Snake]

Yeah it was pretty good! Rick started playing around 19:20 from the front-of-house booth. At first quite mellow and ambient but near the end of his hour some more upbeat tracks. This was all new/reinterpreted material (heard several bits of Riverrun project in there).
Rick and Karl both seemed to be having a great time during the main show. I guess I was still hoping for more improv/mixing in the liveset, but alas, all the songs were start-stop and mostly album versions (of course there were some variations, Cowgirl has some Rez at the end, and they played the Minneapolis/Ring Road mashup). Also, the screen was again only barely used. Just the tracktitles in white text, some very grainy footage from camera's on Rick and Karl and some basic graphics during King of Snake and Jumbo. A lot of the time the screen was dark.
But great to hear Skyscraper, Kittens and a full version of Cups :) Sound was great and banging (though during Cups the bass was so loud it seemed to drown out most of the other sound), Karl's singing was spot-on and crowd was into it.

[King of Snake]

As a little treat, here's the last track from Rick's set (https://www.dropbox.com/s/ykut4b3rxyc6t06/Ricktrack.mp3?dl=0)

[Geo]

Sounds goood!
Thanks for sharing KoS :)

[DoctorRad]

KoS: Do you have the rest of the set??

[King of Snake]

I do, but as per the rules (https://www.borndirty.org/forums/showthread.php?t=9128) I will not be posting it here (I'm already bending the rules by posting that track, but I think in this day and age with Youtube and everything it should be ok).
Anyway it will probably go up on RTSR soon.

[Yannick]

ricks set? :) :) :) thanks for the preview lovely stuff

[jetpig]

quite a few thanks. :)

[potatobroth]

Nice to see it mixed up again a bit, but as a fan... that was just the exact album-version of Cups. :/

[jetpig]

Once upon a time the full version of cups was dream for the live set, but now it's a let down, heh.

Main show looks to be the same set list according to darktrain.jp Instagram posts, but Rick's set included a Chinese vocal mix of ALAF. I was also hoping the main set would get at least a lil bit of the improv treatment, but ah well, still look like massive shows.

[King of Snake]

Quick report from yesterday's gig:
Rick's set was definitely different from the first night. Most notably he played Downpipe (not ALAF) (without Karl's vocal but with a vocal sample of someone counting in Chinese). Very cool!
The gig itself was largely the same set list as the first night, although instead of Dark Train we got a full Rez later on in the set. I felt there was overall a bit more little things that made it feel more live, some little "mistakes", some more drawn out sections. Karl was very energetic and enthusiastic this time, talking and singing nonsense in between the tracks and firing up the crowd. Rick was mouthing all the words when Karl was singing, throwing up his arms and generally jumping around behind his console, as well as of course singing backing vocals on tracks like I Exhale and If Ra.
I had a blast :)

And yes, Cups is basically the full album version (a bit shortened) but Rick mixes in a 4/4 kick during the 2nd part instead of just the breakbeats.

[stimpee]

Setlist for 14th/15th

Mmm... Skyscraper, I Love You
Juanita: Kiteless: To Dream of Love
I Exhale
If Rah
Two Months Off
Scribble
Cups
Minniapolis Ring Road
Push Upstairs
King of Snake
Kittens
Jumbo
Low Burn
Rez
Cowgirl
Moaner
Born Slippy .NUXX

[mark3]

Was any merchandise etc. sold at the venue?

[stargurl]

Black shirts with a black abstract print, there were also 'surreal carnival' shirts in black with a white print or white with a black print. Here's the surreal carnival one: http://imgur.com/VedlVsG

[stimpee]

See also more great quality vids https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUJLyqoBOKXCxM9zs727ugQ

[TheBang]

Black shirts with a black abstract print, there were also 'surreal carnival' shirts in black with a white print or white with a black print. Here's the surreal carnival one: http://imgur.com/VedlVsG
Nice, thanks for the pic. Besides the shirts, were there any other promotional materials or banners or anything advertising the 3 nights at Tivoli as Surreal Carnival or Surreal Carnival Experiment?

[stargurl]

Nothing that I noticed...

[King of Snake]

Another little treat: Downpipe as played by Rick on wednesday (https://www.dropbox.com/s/19dkswahtzd566g/Rick-Downpipe-Wednesday.mp3?dl=0)

[WhiteNoise]

King of Snake, any idea when Rick's set might pop up on RTSR? Dying to hear it.

[ultradave]

Another little treat: Downpipe as played by Rick on wednesday (https://www.dropbox.com/s/19dkswahtzd566g/Rick-Downpipe-Wednesday.mp3?dl=0)

Thanks mate!

[King of Snake]

King of Snake, any idea when Rick's set might pop up on RTSR? Dying to hear it.

Yeah not sure yet. I've been rather busy since the gigs, but I think I can do the basic editing on the remaining recordings this weekend. So if not this weekend, then some time within the next two weeks I'd say.

[holden]

Another little treat: Downpipe as played by Rick on wednesday (https://www.dropbox.com/s/19dkswahtzd566g/Rick-Downpipe-Wednesday.mp3?dl=0)


Thanks for this (and that), King of Snake!

Well, there was a time ten years, fifteen years back, that we'd get new live tracks via UWLive. In this era of fairly static setlists, anything different is appreciated.
Glad you got to experience these gigs.

[stimpee]

All three gigs will be on RTSR soon. Including the Rick warm up sets...

[Yannick]

:p awesome

[crank]

soon as in WHEN?

[King of Snake]

Sorry it took a while, but the files are now up on the tracker.

[King of Snake]

The third day's recording of Rick's set is the best quality. Just has a bit of Stimpee and me talking in the beginning, trying to decide if we could put the recorder somewhere on the balustrade of the balcony where we were standing, but in the end I just held it in my hands as I didn't want it to fall down. After that it's pretty clean and good quality, and it has Confusion the Waitress :)
For the other days we were up front near the stage and the recorder was basically on the stage next to one of the stage monitors. The first day has some clipping and distortion as I was still getting to grips with the recorder settings.

[crank]

THANK YOU!!!

[Yannick]

quite enjoying those 3 rick set :) thanks for recording them !

excited for new stuff again :p

[kontakt1968]

Thank you so much for these much appreciated :)

[DaddyAdv]

Thanks so much, King of Snake! (https://www.borndirty.org/forums/member.php?u=74)

[potatobroth]

wow, thanks! I'm totally loving Rick's set. really nice build in there.

[holden]

Another vote of thanks, King of Snake!
Rick's sets are really great. A few repeats from night to night, but a wonderful build and it's fun trying to spot the UW tracks/samples/snippets/new works(?).

Much obliged, sir!

[potatobroth]

any idea who the female singer is at the start of Rick's Day 3 set? his daughter perhaps?

edit: im in love with this track; this set.

[potatobroth]

hearing the 'improved' opening to Skyscraper gave me goosebumps as I thought back to how listening to a bootleg used to be.

[WhiteNoise]

My attempt at a setlist for Rick's set, night 1 (13th)

1. Good Morning Cockerill
2. Surreal Carnival / Lenny Penne
3. Unknown (Mosaic Confusion)
4. Unknown (Cars)
5. One Turned In (Rick Smith's Version)
6. Witness
7. Billy Goat (Remix)
8. Bass Interlude
9. Blue Bowler


Commentary
1. 0:00-6:14 Extended mix with vocoder on Karl and additional synths. Might have been a version considered back in 2007-2008, before settling on releasing the 'acoustic' version on OWB. Percussionless.

2. 6:14-15:05 The track used in the Surreal Carnival Experiment promo videos. Vocals are from Lenny Penne but there's nothing instrumentally similar - just as easily a remix of Bamboo.

3. 15:05-23:17 Harder to identify. The melodies are different but the synths sound taken from Confusion the Waitress (live and studio versions) and there's some atmospheric similarities to Mosaic.

4. 23:17-30:15 The beat in this track is familiar but I can't place it. Karl's singing the colors of cars similar to "To Dream of Love".

5. 30:15-39:10 Slow moody dream-pop like song, somewhere between Witness, Motorhome, Antirom 3, and Moon In Water (particularly the early mixes) without using sounds from any of them. Features Nina Nastasia on vocals, an artist Rick has played a few times on radio shows.

6. 39:10-40:59 Witness, pretty much exactly as on record.

7. 40:59-46:16 Plodding track with a great deal of percussion taken from Billy Goat. Witness vox "you smell good" continues through it. Ends on a few rapid synth lines like Nuxx, one sounds a little similar to the early version of KoS

8. 46:16-48:21 Long interlude with a deep modulating synth (might be considered the outro of the last track). The intro to Surreal Carnival comes back for a bit in here.

9. 48:21-END The big piano track as posted earlier. Can't hear any similarities to existing material.

[Geo]

I believe track 9 ("the big piano track") is called Blue Bowler... by comparing Stimpee's photo below, and a vid I made during the track ;)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/mcmq6yxrxbo66ci/1-IMG_2851.JPG

[mark3]

any idea who the female singer is at the start of Rick's Day 3 set? his daughter perhaps?


It's Nina Nastasia, the track is 'One Turned in'.
I believe Rick planned to work with her on some new music a few years ago ...

[potatobroth]

Blue Bowler sounds like its got some of of that Unknown track from Electraglide 2000 and Deep Arch from the Pearl's Girl EP

[crank]

holy cow this is good. wish the crowd would have shut their faces... so loud.

[potatobroth]

The Electraglide track im referring to is the one from 2000 thats sandwiched between NUXX and Push Upstairs.

[Mike]

holy cow this is good. wish the crowd would have shut their faces... so loud.

To be fair, warm up sets are never loud - to my ears UW set at Ally pally was 100% louder than Ricks.

[WhiteNoise]

Here's the other two nights...

Night 2 (14th)

1. Unknown (Amnesia DNB)
2. Surreal Carnival / Lenne Penne
3. Unknown (Mosaic Confusion)
4. Witness / Billy Goat (Remix)
5. Downpipe (Dub)
6. Blue Bowler

0:00-6:16 Bubbly drum and bass track with some old school hatwork and the "amnesia" vocal loop over it. Recording cuts out once or twice during it, fades are clean though.

6:16-11:50 Mostly the same as before.

11:50-21:14 Begins with a reprise of the Amnesia vocals on delay. Mostly the same as before.

21:14-32:15 Starting to think Witness and Billy Goat (Remix) are a proper sequence like Shudder / King of Snake. Witness is still the same. Billy Goat (Remix) differs significantly from the last performance, and this time the outro segues into breakbeats (which are mostly adapted from the Pearl's Girl pattern, but with other elements I can't place) that eventually fade into reverb.

32:15-41:49 Dub mix of Downpipe with Japanese vocals similar to Rick's Bungalow with Stairs work, and Karl's vocoded breakdown lyrics. Begins with a looping 'heavenly' pad and ends on the breakdown build synthline long and drawn out.

41:49-51:49 Blue Bowler, mostly the same as before.


Night 3 (15th)

1. One Turned In (Rick Smith's Version)
2. Unknown (Cars)
3. Confusion The Waitress
4. Unknown (Not Quite Nimbey Boing Pop)
5. Unknown (All The Birds)
6. Surreal Carnival / Lenne Penne
7. Blue Bowler
8. Downpipe

0:00-8:56 Didn't compare closely, seems to be mostly the same as last time.

8:56-18:50 Didn't compare closely, seems to be mostly the same as last time. Ends on a modulating delay.

18:50-25:30 Actual Confusion the Waitress this time! Rick takes his time on the intro, no vocals are used, and there's a fair amount of new synthwork in the outro. Reminiscent of the 1996 European Club Gig performance.

25:30-29:07 Segueing cleanly out of Confusion we have an outro that sounds a little like Nimbey Boing Pop, or one of those minimal bridge tracks they played occasionally in 2008 sets. Elements of Confusion carry on along with it but the song never fully returns, and the section ends on a looping pad (which I think is from a Beaucoup Fish era track, but I can't place it, also sounds eerily similar to the intro of Ignition by Paul Hartnoll).

29:07-35:25 Slow minimal style house track with lots of pitch tom hits and lyrics from Karl that I don't recognize. Karl's lyrics and singing sound a bit like Barking era song writing, Boy Boy Boy, or even their Mk1 material - less abstract than usual. Doesn't appear in the other two sets.

35:25-41:28 Surreal Carnival / Lenne Penne again, this time with a different introduction (comes a little abrupty out of the last track). Mostly the same as last time.

41:28-50:26 Blue Bowler, a little faster on the uptake this time but mostly the same.

50:26-59:05 Downpipe, pretty much exactly the same as last time.


It's Nina Nastasia, the track is 'One Turned in'.
I believe Rick planned to work with her on some new music a few years ago ...

Good catch. I recognize her voice now. Rick played The Matter (Of Our Discussion) in one of their radio shows years ago. The song still haunts me.

[potatobroth]

anyone have One Turned In by Nina Nastasia? i'm trying with no success to find ANY outlet that sells One Turned In (only available on the single You Can Take Your Time).