2017-03-17 Alexandra Palace

[dirty050505]

Didn't see a thread for this so thought I would start one. Tickets bought. Hoping this show coincides with a possible Beaucoup Fish box set release, would be nice to see Cups Kittens and Moaner back in the mix live!

[amhilde]

Yep - we are booked too. Hoping this is a bit more free form, but happy all the same! :)

BTW - why does Underworld always play London shows seemingly in March?

[mark3]

Bought a ticket too. Hoping for an extraordinary gig with loads of improvs and new stuff.

[nelfun5]

Let's hope this one special gig will be broacasted live and/or gets a professional live recording/release. It's been a while since the 2008 LiveHereNow series!

[amhilde]

Hey Folks,

I was "in town" today and noticed adverts for this gig on the eastbound Central line from Bond St and north and southbound Jubilee between (at least) all stations between Bond St and Swiss Cottage. Still using the Barbara purple and pink poster, advertising the gig location and date, with a few choice reviews of the album from various media outlets.

Have to admit I was rather surprised to walk past one at Bond St going into town, because a) the gig is pretty far off yet and b) the album has been out a while by now. Definitely concerned because it looks like it is being marketed as another Barbara gig! (note: no wording at all on the posters about very special gig/guests etc).

We are headed in tomorrow again and I can try and get a quick photo - phone was in an inconvenient place.

[Jram]

Coming from Glasgow for this, would be cool if they recorded it for DVD release - though both Roundhouse gigs were filmed, so who knows?

[ndrwrld]

just in case anyone's interested on here...

Paul Cakeboy
7 hrs ·
We have 2 tickets to UNDERWORLD at Alexandra Palace on March 17th. Can't go so they're up for grabs £40 each. Any takers?
PM me or Mel x.

https://www.facebook.com/paulcakeboy?fref=ts
Lives in Truro, Cornwall.

[mark3]

Anyone else ordered their tickets from the UW shop?
I still haven't received mine. On my account page it reads: "1 item awaiting dispatch".

Guess they haven't printed the tickets yet...?

[ndrwrld]

sorry, tickets are sold.

[mark3]

sorry, tickets are sold.

Yep, one of them is sold to me. But for three months I have been waiting for it to arrive.
Guess I'm the only one who hasn't received it, so I will contact them

[lemonjelly]

my tickets haven't arrived yet either. Coming down from the midlands. Will be alone, as the other half hates underworld, but I couldn't miss this.

Need to plan booking a hotel, as with it being a friday, will have to stay over I guess.

[scary man]

If anyone is selling a pair of tickets, I would be interested.

Stubhub fees are just absurd.

[mark3]

Got the following answer from TM Stores:
'Tickets will be posted out as soon as we receive them from the event promoters, this will be nearer the date of the show.'

[stimpee]

I'm in need of a ticket if anyone has one. @stimpee on twitter.

[lemonjelly]

My ticket arrived yesterday!
Travelling down on the friday (leaving work early). Coming solo to this one, as no-one I know wanted to make the effort.
Hotel booked. Train will be booked today or tomorrow.

[dirtytomato]

Has anyone else received the their ticket(s)? I'm concerned because the concert is little over a month away and it says "Awaiting Dispatch" on my order information.

[bazwint]

Has anyone else received the their ticket(s)? I'm concerned because the concert is little over a month away and it says "Awaiting Dispatch" on my order information.

I'm waiting too. Stress is the only thing associated with ticket purchases that comes free of charge.There's plenty of time though.

[dirty050505]

A lot of concerts I've been to lately I have not had the tickets sent out until about a week before, so don't panic. For the Chem Bros at the Apollo in December I didn't have the tickets in hand until three days before!

[mark3]

A lot of concerts I've been to lately I have not had the tickets sent out until about a week before, so don't panic.
The Slow Slippy 12" took ten days to arrive (I'm in Denmark), so I hope they send those tickets out soon ... :p

[stimpee]

Thanks to Resolute for offering me a ticket!

[ndrwrld]

I'm waiting too. Stress is the only thing associated with ticket purchases that comes free of charge.There's plenty of time though.
Stress, is the 3rd of 3 Roundhouse shows. ;)

[amhilde]

Checking in here as its not long to go now. I shall check with the Social Director to find out if they are mailing the tickets here. Thank god we are moving after this concert and not before!

Any sort of meet up planned for this? The venue is a pain in the ass to get to from town.

Finally - are the expectations for something similar to last March's shows or?

[froopy seal]

I will not make it to the show. :(

Now I have two tickets to sell, going at EUR 100 (GBP 80 at the time) for the lot, plus shipping to wherever you live.

Note that I do not have the tickets yet, but the store sent me a message that they posted them today.

Edit: Please PM me if interested.

[DorsetYiddo]

Yes just had an email from the store saying mine has been despatched.
Cant wait, on my own for this one too and never been to this venue

[scary man]

I will not make it to the show. :(

Now I have two tickets to sell, going at EUR 100 (GBP 80 at the time) for the lot, plus shipping to wherever you live.

Note that I do not have the tickets yet, but the store sent me a message that they posted them today.

Edit: Please PM me if interested.

I have PMd you, mate.

[whatmakesustick]

Has anyone seen any further information about this gig? Normally shows at Ally Pally are quite big events with 'festival style' food/drink/entertainment in the large foyer and then support bands etc. As it's sold I guess there will be 10k people there. I have not seen anything in the form of support or a 'Tomato' curated type event.

[whatmakesustick]

Well, the ticket says 'plus special guests'...

[Resolute]

my tickets arrived finally

[Ninja Power]

Hi folks,

I've 2 tickets for sale at face value, can't make the trip from Ireland this time :(
PM me if you're interested (original cost £80 +P&P = €100 ).

PS - I've been a member of the forums here for years under "Ninja Power" - can't login due to old hotmail account used back in the 00's when registered.

regards
W.

[TheBang]

PS - I've been a member of the forums here for years under "Ninja Power" - can't login due to old hotmail account used back in the 00's when registered.
I merged your accounts and updated your e-mail address.

[froopy seal]

I have PMd you, mate.
Thanks, just answered.

Bang (or some other administrator) - Is there a setting that enables e-mail alerts for when someone sends a PM? Cannot find anything in the Control Panel, even with my glasses on.

[Ninja Power]

I merged your accounts and updated your e-mail address.

Big Thanks - all working again, looking at my posts from 12 years back, time flies :)

[TheBang]

Bang (or some other administrator) - Is there a setting that enables e-mail alerts for when someone sends a PM? Cannot find anything in the Control Panel, even with my glasses on.
Time for new glasses, froops. ;)

It's under User CP > Edit Options > Private Messaging > Receive Email Notification of New Private Messages

[mark3]

Gutted I won't make it to the gig. Fingers crossed for additional gigs in northern Europe this spring or summer ..

Will sell my ticket for £38.50 + shipping.
PM me if you're interested

[stargurl]

New YouTube video popped up:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tcVOdMzzrpI

On 17th March, Underworld celebrate the meeting of the groups past, present and future at their biggest ever UK headline show - a sold-out event at London’s Alexandra Palace. Underworld Surreal Carnival Experiment It’s Underworld all night: Rick Smith kicks things off at 7pm with a performance-come-installation in the middle of the main room. Tracks from a deep-dive into the Underworld catalogue will be deconstructed and re-conceived alongside new and improvised work written specifically for the show by Rick. This support to the main event will be networked throughout the building in a collaboration directed by tomato’s Simon Taylor, that will offer hints at things to come from Underworld. Surreal Carnival Experiment / Rick Smith Live from 7pm. Doors, good food, craft beer and cocktails from 6.30pm. In 2016, Underworld released their seventh studio album Barbara Barbara, we face a shining future to huge critical acclaim. Following the record's release, the band played headline performances at Coachella, Glastonbury and Summer Sonic and received their first Grammy Nomination. In January 2017, T2 Trainspotting was released featuring an original score by Rick Smith alongside new Underworld material. Karl Hyde’s collaboration with Simon Stephens and Scott Graham, Fatherland, premieres at the Manchester International Festival in July 2017.

[joethelion]

WOW.

it certainly seems that those lucky enough to attend will get:

1) some form of improvised show
2) the long requested, and hoped for... 'non-dancey Underworld performance'

I REALLY REALLY REALLY hope this show will be recorded...

[TheBang]

Wow

[jetpig]

Well that hint/rumor/hope/leak/whipser that they might improv this show was more on the money than i could have imagined.

Have fun everyone!

Edit: if that remix used for the video is anything to go by, this will distinctly NOT be an ambient show. :P

[nelfun5]

WOW.
I REALLY REALLY REALLY hope this show will be recorded...

That'd be terrific indeed.
I miss the times (2006-2010?) when their shows were broadcasted live online...

[potatobroth]

wow! THIS!!

[crankphoto]

This gig sounds like the antidote to the formulaic past few gigs, improv, unexpected treats, experimentation and (another) different start to BS to catch people out might be a utopian dream, or might just be Ally Pally in 2 weeks time.

Hoping we get some low fi and ambient stuff as well as some real stompers. Give us something we don't expect Ricky - love your drums big boy 😜

Hope to see some dirts on the floor - remember it's a long walk up a big hill 😳

[froopy seal]

Time for new glasses, froops. ;)

It's under User CP > Edit Options > Private Messaging > Receive Email Notification of New Private Messages
Thanks Todd. I'll tell my opto... ophthal... you know who I mean. :)

Actually that box IS ticked, I am not receiving notifications though. (Yes, the e-mail address is correct and current, and no, nothing in my spam box.)

[TheBang]

Actually that box IS ticked, I am not receiving notifications though. (Yes, the e-mail address is correct and current, and no, nothing in my spam box.)
I checked the forum configuration, and it was not setup to send Non-Delivery Reports to me for bounced e-mails. I've fixed that, so I should see NDR's now. That will help diagnose if the PM notification e-mail to you is bouncing. If your e-mail provider is silently eating the e-mail though, then I can't help with that.

[potatobroth]

praying this is recorded and either released or sold via uwlive

[holden]

UW regularly improvised their setlist from 1992-2010. With Barking and Barbara, we've expected and received the same show. It'll be a great return to form if they vary the setlist in the slightest, let alone improv or include new tracks!

PS, I love UW live, have dozens/ hundreds of bootlegs, but for the last two tours, I've stopped collecting because what's the point if it's the same gig every night? Might be fun for the crowd, but not for armchair headphone enthusiast.

[Dirty Saint]

Might be fun for the crowd, but not for armchair headphone enthusiast.

When have any band worried about the armchair headphone enthusiast :confused:

[holden]

When have any band worried about the armchair headphone enthusiast :confused:

I'm sure they haven't and don't. No band is tailoring their setlist for a non-live replay, but UW used to cater more to the fan with deep cuts, new tracks, improvs, revisions, etc. It's obvious they've been lately crafting the live show in a static way that appeals to the average festival attendee...A few new tracks, then the big singles. That's fine. It just isn't something that I want to hear over and over, whereas the pre 2010 setlists and improvs were worth collecting and enjoying at home.

[jetpig]

While I agree that collecting and such has been kinda pointless as of late, I don't think they are(were?) trying to tailor their set to a certain crowd anymore now than they did in the past. The lack of the reworks is definitely missed, but they never went without playing Nuxx and always a majority of Cowgirl/KoS/TMO/Moaner/PG/PU/Dark* up through 09. The reworks suited to be fresh to the old fans, please the casuals, and be true to "Underworld Live" all at the same time.


I think the continued static setlists beyond the Dubno2 tour is due to the idea of not being "Underworld" that went into so much of the BB material. Truly putting all those expectations and preconceived notions aside on their own terms (as opposed to for the stage production as in Barking-era or for the sake of doing the whole of DNBWMHM) I'm sure was MUCH more important than appealing to the festival-attendee-nonfan.

[amhilde]

Thought I would check in to see if there was any update as to what this was going to be - happy to see it could very well be improv heavy, or at least a very interesting experience outside a normal "gig". Otherwise why wait 9 months after the last Barbara show just to do the same show again?!

Tickets arrived last week so now we have to figure out how to get up there. Whats the capacity?

[Resolute]

would be nice to sort some kind of meetup if possible. i have very little knowledge of the area though, all i know is im there for most of the day and won't be far from the venue.

[holden]

P.s., I hope that you all have a great, varied gig! It's been awhile and you deserve it!

[Dirty Saint]

Any tips on parking near the venue on the night??

[bornblippy]

This will be my first time seeing Underworld live so I hope it's not too far away from their latest performances but either way I can't wait.

[jetpig]

http://www.underworldlive.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/header.jpg

from:http://www.underworldlive.com/news/2017/03/underworld-live-at-alexandra-palace-2/

[bornblippy]

Looks like some more tickets are being released...

[vacant]

Any tips on parking near the venue on the night??

Alexandra Palace has it's own car parking up the hill, although they may reserve it for disabled customers. There's plenty of street parking nearby, and after 6:30/7 most of it should be free.

[TheBang]

I like what appears to be intentional callbacks to the Experimental Sound Field. Long improvised jams (though not 18 hours long) from a central tower, surrounded by an art installation (projections?). And, of course, "Experiment" in the name.

[Resolute]

hopefully with more available recordings than the soundfield

[DoctorRad]

Fuddle, just paid about twice face value to make sure I got in :(

[TheBang]

Another promo with some musical bits and bobs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fadjasZzs-E

[stimpee]

So, I ordered two tickets for my friends last Thursday to be shipped here to NL (not that far), and they still havent arrived. I have a ticket for myself from Resolute (thanks for that) - but I've mailed the ladies at TheSundayClub (Danielle is on maternity leave still) and no response. I'm flying today and its not looking good. Mike Bower has a spare I think but this is a sad state of affairs when tickets ordered a week ago still havent been delivered. Anyone else got a spare?

[stimpee]

Hello,

Thank you for your email.

I will speak to the venue today to ask for duplicate tickets to be made available for you at the box office.

Please can you take a copy of your order confirmation and some valid ID to the venue with you, you will need to ensure that you have enough time to collect these before the event.

Your original tickets posted to you are now invalid. We will be in touch should there be any further update.

We hope you have a great time at the show.

Kind Regards,

Elle
TM Stores

Props to the TM Stores people for helping out!

[amhilde]

Oh man this is like waiting for Christmas to come. So stoked for tomorrow.

If any of you fine people see a dark haired lady wearing either a Hiroshima Carp tshirt or a Suara Records shirt (A cat in a banana) and black jeans come by and say hi!

[gaborez]

I have a spare ticket for tonight if anyone wants one :) Drop me a line

[Mike]

Also got a spare ticket here, message me if needed.

[stargurl]

There are two new prints (£25 each or both for £40) and tote bags tonight.

[whatmakesustick]

Well that was great. Ricks set was lush (especially downpipe), strange people Walking round on stilts, projections of Karl's art, nice to see a couple of tunes added to the set list, EEish version of Rez/Cowgirl, a couple of new prints at the merch stand, 10000+ people, feels like they put a lot of effort into the gig :-)

[Jram]

Fucking awesome - Kittens, Cups, Moaner, marvellous.
No announcement about it, but the gig was professionally filmed on multiple cameras - cross your fingers for a DVD. Well worth the round trip from Glasgow.

[crankphoto]

Great gig, more than I expected really,

Rick was amazing, starting off slow then building some fab tunes, we were about 10 feet from his console, looked like a duplicate of the stage console.

Setlist:
Mmm Skyscraper
Juanita
I Exhale
If Rah
Dark Train, with 6 dancers on stage and great lasers
Two Months Off
Scribble
Cups
Ring Road lyrics with a Minneapolis bed - think that confused some
King of Snake, with great green lasers, off beat syncopation at the end
Kittens with unusual 'halls' sounds and a stronger marching beat
Jumbo
Low Burn
Rez with a different middle breakdown
Cowgirl
Moaner
Born Slippy NUXX, straight in, no messing - long outro

A few mistakes and deffo a few minor sound changes and minor variations, the new songs were just standard, the older ones seemed to have more changes - nothing major.

Great crowd, no encore, it was asked for, house lights came up - think there is a curfew at Ally Pally

[Jram]

Dark Train, with 6 dancers on stage and great lasers

6 dancers each side, and at least 10 each side during Born Slippy :-)

[amhilde]

Wow - that was a doozy of a show!

I was up on the rail just about in front of Karl and they seemed really up for it. Loved the setlist tweaks compared to last year - no sag in the middle but still played some good slow-ish songs in there. New lighting rig descending scared the living crap out of me at first but the lighting was really decent, much more so than last year.

I was chatting with some friends up front and folks around us and wasn't focusing too much on Rick's set, but Other Half got a good photo of him at the console. I thought the overall idea was really good, though some more dancy tunes would have been great, especially the closer they got to show time!

Someone near me was saying that the Utrecht shows were a warm up for this one, but that seems like a lot of effort for one gig. If thats true then it really paid off because it was pretty epic.

BTW - where was Pricey?

[Dirty Saint]

Kittens ...just wow :D

[markreed]

That was the best UW gig I've seen since the 2000 Summer Tour - possibly ever.

Rick played an 80 minute instrumental set from a console in the mixing desk : the console was surrounded on all sides by projection screens of live footage and Tomato art including film of Karl painting. Most of the instrumental set was 'new', with some soundtrack stuff, 2-3 songs with female vocalists (similar to the vocal track on the Trance soundtrack), 3-4 new Lemonworld-style jams with Karl vox, a weird ambient version of Bamboo, something off Riverrun, and ending with an instrumental of "Downpipe."

Gig itself was great. Audience and atmosphere was very fervent.


I'll post a link to some pics tomorrow - it's 1.30am!

[Jram]

Someone near me was saying that the Utrecht shows were a warm up for this one, but that seems like a lot of effort for one gig. If thats true then it really paid off because it was pretty epic.

Warming up would make sense if this gig is to be released on DVD. Those dancers won't be cheap either - lots of effort for one gig, unless it's the one you plan for everybody to see...

[TheBang]

BTW - where was Pricey?
Darren hasn't been on stage since the end of the US tour last year.

[amhilde]

Warming up would make sense if this gig is to be released on DVD. Those dancers won't be cheap either - lots of effort for one gig, unless it's the one you plan for everybody to see...

Was wondering about the cameras (they came by us multiple times) as some were the fancy ones that rotate on an axis to hold the shot stable (a steadycam then I guess) and there were more than the usual amount. And the dancers. And the expensive lighting/lasers. And the extra masses of equipment at the mixing desk.

I do hope that they put the Rick mix on there too because I would really liked to have sat down with that on some good headphones and blissed out rather than try to listen in the middle of a crowd.

All in all a really wonderful show and I am very happy that we went. There was a couple from Nova Scotia behind me and this was her first show, having been a fan for 20 some years. She burst into tears after the first song and I'm not sure she stopped, but I was very happy for her to have had that as her first UW experience. Definitely one of the better UW crowds Ive been in.

[Jram]

There was a couple from Nova Scotia behind me and this was her first show, having been a fan for 20 some years. She burst into tears after the first song and I'm not sure she stopped, but I was very happy for her to have had that as her first UW experience. Definitely one of the better UW crowds Ive been in.

When the lights went down did she scream "Oh my God, we're actually here!"? If so, I was right beside you. I was definitely next to darktrain.jp as I've since realised.

The number and type of cameras, and the shots they were taking, they got a lot of crowd cover as well as the band from all angles (each filming a bit of everything, standard in case one malfunctions). Filming Rick's empty desk before the start, filming along the front row, filming the crowd leaving at the end - my money is on a DVD.

I got one of the camera guys, at the very end, to film my UW-inspired half-sleeve tattoo. He confirmed, as I knew, that only he was broadcasting the live feed to the video screens - the other cameras were recording. He gave nothing away, and I didn't ask because he's a professional and I wouldn't expect him to.
He did, however, smile and deny nothing.

[markreed]

Here's some photos from last night.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/mark-reed/albums/72157681447106766

[TheBang]

Nice pics. Gives a good feel for the venue and show, thanks.

[amhilde]

When the lights went down did she scream "Oh my God, we're actually here!"? If so, I was right beside you. I was definitely next to darktrain.jp as I've since realised.

That was her for sure! And yeah, I know darktrain.jp and the guy to his left from either Roundhouse or Berlin last year, though the other Japanese guy up front was new having come over from the US for this.

[Jram]

That was her for sure! And yeah, I know darktrain.jp and the guy to his left from either Roundhouse or Berlin last year, though the other Japanese guy up front was new having come over from the US for this.

Edited: Turns out we were next to each other for most of the gig.

[nelfun5]

Was Rick's set filmed as well?

[dirty050505]

Great gig! Have uploaded a clip of Cups https://youtu.be/YYRqa-ZmCm0

[dirty050505]

And Kittens. Funny how I got the 3 tracks I wanted when I started this thread!
https://youtu.be/FOGIAddQs4c

[markreed]

Rick's set was definitely filmed as there were several cameras there for the projections, seen in these photos taken from the screens :

https://www.flickr.com/photos/mark-reed/33349887302/in/dateposted-public/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/mark-reed/32662713864/in/dateposted-public/

[Georg.]

"Filming: For projection and social media" ;)

http://i68.tinypic.com/2rrum1h.jpg

[potatobroth]

guess that rules out release :(

(also rules out me asking if there was moshing :P)

[negative1]

Almost every underworld concert is filmed, regardless of it being released.

This has been going on for the last several tours. Unless they announce it, don't expect a release.

later
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[Jram]

Almost every underworld concert is filmed, regardless of it being released.

This has been going on for the last several tours. Unless they announce it, don't expect a release.

It did occur to me that they had filmed both Roundhouse shows last year, neither of which has surfaced, this just seemed like the one to release if they were going to do it - despite no onstage announcement and no crane for overhead crowd shots.Nevertheless, I live in hope.

[amhilde]

Lol - "dynamic crowd movement" - does that mean people going to the back for another beer halfway through the show or the airhead drunk women who like to "be free spirits" in their dancing, taking up the space of 10?

I think if they were filming it for release we would surely have seen some giant signs in places about "agreeing to be filmed" just by being in the venue? (unless it was in the tiny print on the ticket/website when we bought it)

What does the band do with all these tapes then? The filming at AP seemed a lot more extensive and focused on crowd shots than Roundhouse.

[negative1]

The recordings are for internal use, I would think, and just a reference.

They are not necessarily intended for a release.

Yes, they may be used in projects in the future, but it's up to them.

later
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[vacant]

Unless, they're planning another Everything; Everything style live release, which was a 'compilation' of tracks and shots from a variety of concerts on the tour. It would go some way to explaining the lack of improvisation and regular set list recently...

v.

[jetpig]

Except the EE tour wasn't a static setlist and they've been playing a series of 4 or 5 static setlist tours since 2010. I think that's just how they play now. It's harder to cover 16+ songs in 2 hours if you are improving them. Hopefully there are more opening set/side stage improv sets to come, though, perhaps even that include Karl. :D

[Jram]

Disappointing as it is, I'm going to have to concede this one - not least because the photo of the rider shows that it was not filmed for release/broadcast.

They would also have to have consent from people to be filmed - when Iron Maiden did a webcast of their Brixton gig in 2003 the signs around the venue said that it would be filmed "and if you go in, you agree that your image may be used" etc.
Similarly, the Bloodhound Gang had to pull a live DVD filmed in 2000 because they didn't have permissions - they tried to retrospectively track down everyone who appeared on stage with them, to get consent, but it never happened.

At least we know it does exist, in the archives, so maybe one day it will surface.

[TheBang]

Just FYI, most of the Surreal Carnival merchandise that went up on the shop today are in short supply, so if you want something, you should order now. Most of the items have only 10-50 pieces each available. The only item available in quantity (200+) is the pink poster.

[jetpig]

Dancers on stage are part of frantic assembly, the crew that will be putting Karl's fatherland production. Https://twitter.com/MIFestival/status/846676993357893632

[holden]

Ok I'm just psyched (at this point) to hear that the UW setlist was slightly different, and precluded by a more freeform Rick set with some UW rarities.

[sunflowereye]

Ok I'm just psyched (at this point) to hear that the UW setlist was slightly different, and precluded by a more freeform Rick set with some UW rarities.

Agreed! I really wish they'd take this concept on tour. Rick set mood for hour & 1/2 or so, then they blow us away for 2 hrs. I'd drop a dollar or two for that show State-side. ;] Please make it so! :) Red Rocks (at last) FTW? I'd love to hear Rick play 'Thing In A Book' between the monoliths to open please. :D

[gcoleman99]

Agreed! I really wish they'd take this concept on tour. Rick set mood for hour & 1/2 or so, then they blow us away for 2 hrs. I'd drop a dollar or two for that show State-side. ;] Please make it so! :) Red Rocks (at last) FTW? I'd love to hear Rick play 'Thing In A Book' between the monoliths to open please. :D

I'd really love something like that, too. The hour they played at Ultra just wasn't enough!

[sunflowereye]

I'd really love something like that, too. The hour they played at Ultra just wasn't enough!

Right?. Criminal I'd say. Karl obviously wanted to play more. :[ Happy I got to hear 'Barbara. Barbara' tracks as I'd not heard those live, but if their set had been exact as Mexico City I'd (possibly/hopefully) heard 'Kittens' (a bucket list track for me) & 'Scribble' (also never heard before) + 'Moaner.' UW for 1 hr is just not enough. :[ All I can hope for is a US leg of a tour w/ this Carnival concept. I like it a lot - would love to hear Rick set a proper mood for a true UW experience. Red Rocks and/or Atlanta would be great. :D

[jetpig]

I'd travel almost anywhere in the US, and most of Canada, to see the carnival concept. That said, Seattle's not seen them since '99... ;)

[potatobroth]

Who is singing that first part of Rick's set on the third night? Female voice?

I'm in love with this whole set (aside from the weird off-beat part of Lenne Penne)

[gcoleman99]

I'd travel almost anywhere in the US, and most of Canada, to see the carnival concept. That said, Seattle's not seen them since '99... ;)

I don't think I could be able to make Seattle. It's too far away, you know.

[dubnobasswithme]

I don't think I could be able to make Seattle. It's too far away, you know.

Oh, you two ;)

Unrelated: see you next time at The Bowl (whenever that is)?

[jetpig]

Oh, you two ;)

Unrelated: see you next time at The Bowl (whenever that is)?

A boy can dream! Namely of a show at marymoor park where I can drive 15 minutes to get home after spending the day across the small parking lot with my dog at the off leash area.

[markreed]

Well, a recording is now on YT : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie8a1DMpSl8

Probably one you recognise. :)

[jetpig]

A few clips from Rick's warmup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fPvm-7JZII
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiHamFfvHmE&list=PLzyQpCa4FGDG0IzDcAdImGZSTEgMxTIiq&index=2&t=0s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKWw8TzhJl4&list=PLzyQpCa4FGDG0IzDcAdImGZSTEgMxTIiq&index=3&t=0s

[TheBang]

8-page article on the Surreal Carnival Experiment in here:

https://electronicsound.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/ES_28_DIGITAL.pdf

Lots of interesting behind-the-scenes stuff.

[WhiteNoise]

“Back in the 90s,” he says, “the whole trance thing, the
long tracks and the improvisations, I think they were a
reflection of the chemical reality that a lot of people were
living in. Our approach then was very much rooted in
improvisation and we had a big love of people like Miles
Davis. I know that some of our hardcore fans would still
like us to do that. But to be honest, I think if we did, a lot
of other people would get bored!”


(sounds of protest)

[jetpig]

“Back in the 90s,” he says, “the whole trance thing, the
long tracks and the improvisations, I think they were a
reflection of the chemical reality that a lot of people were
living in. Our approach then was very much rooted in
improvisation and we had a big love of people like Miles
Davis. I know that some of our hardcore fans would still
like us to do that. But to be honest, I think if we did, a lot
of other people would get bored!”


(sounds of protest)


Ugh, I know all the monetary and festival headliner and 25 years of amazing music realities of this decision as I often speak to them, but I really do wanna see improv make a return in the set. Particularly when they do 3 nights at a venue and it's the same set, THAT seems boring. I want to see the Barking and Barbara material get the same treatment and evolution live that all the others have. I don't even really mean 20 minutes of improv, just restructure things in a surprising way; give us a slowed down dubbed out scribble, a live performance of 23 blue out of nowhere. It's too bad, cause I think that energy and anxiety of the unknown really resonates with dance music crowds.

[joethelion]

What'd be nice is if they just went back to the 'randomized setlists' from the 'Oblivion with Bells' tour

So you wouldn't know exactly what was going to happen next, and it was great to have all those "improvs" (which were -possibly- mostly Darren Price tracks?) bridging songs. And tracks got little tweaks, so "Cowgirl" for example, didn't sound exactly the same at different concerts (which is what happened during the "Barking Tour")

It just bums me out so much at a live show when UW finishes a song... then there's a long pause... and they start out another song with a really long intro.

Plus, to this day - I still don't understand the appeal of seeing (any) band where they simply play the songs exactly like how they sound on the album.

[potatobroth]

What'd be nice is if they just went back to the 'randomized setlists' from the 'Oblivion with Bells' tour

So you wouldn't know exactly what was going to happen next, and it was great to have all those "improvs" (which were -possibly- mostly Darren Price tracks?) bridging songs. And tracks got little tweaks, so "Cowgirl" for example, didn't sound exactly the same at different concerts (which is what happened during the "Barking Tour")

It just bums me out so much at a live show when UW finishes a song... then there's a long pause... and they start out another song with a really long intro.

Plus, to this day - I still don't understand the appeal of seeing (any) band where they simply play the songs exactly like how they sound on the album.


yep. ive been playing a lot of live shows from the BF/AHDO era and just loving the randomness and improvisational aspects.