View Full Version : 2016-04-13 Fox Theater - Pomona, CA
Troy McClure
01-25-2016, 02:30 PM
The band just posted on Facebook and Twitter that they are playing at the Fox Theater in Pomona, CA on Wednesday, April 13th.
https://twitter.com/underworldlive/status/691713542899118080
Ticket link here:
http://www.axs.com/events/306438/underworld-tickets?platform=hootsuite
Says tickets starts at $34.50 and are on sale Friday, January 29th at 12:00 PST.
-Jason
TheBang
01-25-2016, 02:34 PM
Yes!
I'm surprised they're allowed to play a gig so close to Coachella.
Edit: I see now this is part of "Localchella"
Capacity of the Fox Theatre is 2000, so it's a medium-sized theatre.
Troy McClure
01-29-2016, 12:35 PM
I just purchased tickets. Looks like every ticket is the same price. The seating map 3 sections: a GA standing floor, Reserved Loge, and a GA Balcony. Including fees it's $45 per ticket.
Jason
darktrain
01-29-2016, 01:09 PM
And the Loge/Balcony were gone immediately! See you dirties on the floor!
I'm signed in to the AXS waiting room for the public sale starting at 12.00pm PST. Looks like every ticket is the same price. It showing 3 sections: a GA standing floor, Reserved Loge, and a GA Balcony. Including fees it's $45 per ticket.
Jason
Troy McClure
01-29-2016, 01:13 PM
And the Loge/Balcony were gone immediately! See you dirties on the floor!
Right on! I'll be there on the floor, too.
Jason
svirfnebli
01-29-2016, 01:33 PM
First time poster here.. Just got Row A in the Reserved Loge left!. Super excited the see UW for the second time in 1 year. Dream come true
ultradave
02-02-2016, 06:18 PM
This made my day. I'll likely be on the floor. :D
Nope. I'll be there with 2 of my buddies and they opted for the GA balcony, so that's where I'll be.
earthportal
03-07-2016, 04:44 PM
hey everyone, I was planning on attending this show but it turns out that it makes more sense for my wife and I to go to the April 20th show in NYC. I have two tickets to the Fox Theater show if anyone is interested in purchasing them.
Professor
03-18-2016, 08:54 AM
I would love to meet some of you local dirts... I'll be there, in the mezz I think.
Rioja
04-03-2016, 12:53 AM
Okay here goes... The last time I posted in these forums was, I think, 2003. At that time, the site was simply Dirty.org, I believe, and Scott Warner ran it. The boards themselves were collectively known as RTSR. ("Ride the sainted rhythms", of course. Please excuse the ignorance, but is Warner still around?)
I don't know if there's anyone still around who would remember this, but there was an RTSR CD compilation made late 2002 with a bunch of the regulars who fancied themselves musicians. I was one of the ones on there, going by "Lifedownstairs" back then with a track called "Romancandle Vox". The peeps that put together the disc were the same ones who did "Bootleg Babies", I think.
And I know this really, really dates me, but I guess the reason I'm rearing my curious head again is that I only somewhat recently discovered that there were some of us still around, as evidenced by the new (at least, new to me) BornDirty boards. And of course this inspired a pleasant reminiscing in me old bonce.
So, yes, I know - long winded. My point here is that I was absolutely thrilled to find that Dr. Smith and Mr. Hyde (and the new Darren, of course) had reserved a night of music at an L.A. theater despite being booked 2 weekends back-to-back in Indio at Coachella. (I tell you, it's indeed a wonderful thing to be a west coast Underworld fan this month.) I've actually seen UW 2 or 3 times at previous Coachellas back when it was just one weekend, but I haven't been to that festival in a while because it's just too damned packed nowadays and -- no offense to anyone -- but I really don't have too much of a desire to be packed like sardines with Guns 'N Roses fans. Again, no offense, but you know I really have a bit of trouble getting past the nastiness (the bad kind of nasty) in a GNR song like "One In A Million". Forgive and forget, yes, I know, but that can be a bit of a challenge in certain cases.
All right already! I know, I know. Ok so I don't know how to say this without sounding a smidge creepy, so here goes. After being a very big fan of UW for about twenty years, I can't help but wonder if Rick or Karl have ever met fans before or after a show. I know they're both very intelligent and fairly private people, but I guess what I'm asking is if those arriving quite early have ever been invited into soundcheck or that kind of thing.
Again, I feel kind of silly asking about this because, of course, I don't know Rick, Karl, or Darren from Adam. I would, however, think it be something to be able to thank them in person for all the years of a world made better by the art they've made. (Both as UW and as part of Tomato.)
You know, I really respect and admire Jason Bentley a lot, and am particularly grateful for him having more than a little something to do with the fact that I -- along with thousands of other fans -- have been able to see UW at the legendary Hollywood Bowl both in 2007 and 2015.
But I'd be lying if I said I wasn't quite envious of Bentley since he's one of the relative few who have been able to personally express his gratitude to 2 of the very best musicians who have ever graced this globe.
Any thoughts from anyone would be more than welcome, and again, I hope my lack of preference for GNR didn’t offend.
With enormous love for all the Dirts new and old,
Atys.
holden
04-03-2016, 09:36 AM
Nice one, Rioja! Yeah, a lot has changed since then, but these boards always see new life with a new album's release and tour.
Yep, still have RTSR Power On, a fine fan compilation. The dirty musician comps continued till 2012, I have em on my netlabel below.
Best of luck with the gig meetup. I last saw UW in NY in 2007, and wish I could travel this year to see them stateside. I'm sure folks here with more concerts under their belts my ght have some advice or stories. I just recall seeing R&K wandering around backstage a few hours prior to Showtime...I was interested in saving my space so I didn't venture closer to the roped off backstage.
God fucking dammit - I'm in CA next week, and fly home on the 12th. If I'd noticed this when I booked my flights last month, I'd have stayed to see them.
Big hairy baws. :-(
Rioja
04-03-2016, 03:31 PM
Holden -- thank you for that. I was a little afraid I'd get bashed around a bit, considering UW is not the kind of group that fosters rock-star idolatry. There's not even a music industry presence (thankfully). I remember an interview with Rick and Karl once where the former was asked what he thought of said industry and he admirably replied something to the effect of, "No idea, we don't know them." However, genuine and earnest praise does seem to be welcome, if what Karl says at 20:50 of this KCRW interview is any indication: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmJNSO42KSE
So, I just figure I'll try my luck and see what happens...
I am definitely interested in all the RTSR comps that have taken place over the years, so thank you for pointing me to your label. Very much looking forward to checking those out...
Do you know if Scott Warner is still around, by the way?
Jram -- is seeing if you can trade for another return flight an option? Sometimes airlines are cool with that, especially if your flight back is overbooked. Just an idea -- I've taken advantage of that once or twice in the past.
Jram -- is seeing if you can trade for another return flight an option? Sometimes airlines are cool with that, especially if your flight back is overbooked. Just an idea -- I've taken advantage of that once or twice in the past.
I checked, but they've told me it will cost £258 to change my flight. Plus I'd have to pay accomodation, find a gig ticket, etc etc - not happening.
Frustrated as fuck, I'm going for Combichrist and was flexible with my travel dates. I've now filled my week with tickets for other bands I don't care about, when I could have caught Underworld again if I'd only known.
Rioja
04-04-2016, 03:54 PM
I checked, but they've told me it will cost £258 to change my flight. Plus I'd have to pay accomodation, find a gig ticket, etc etc - not happening.
Sorry to hear that - that sucks, man. That's a damned expensive flight change fee, but yeah I've experienced that a few times myself, as well. First time I ever did something like that, I remember it being no hassle at all, so that's the impression I was left with, thinking that any future attempts would also be no trouble. Of course, no, false first impression: basically anytime I've asked to do it from then on has been prohibitively expensive.
I'm guessing the New York date on the 20th is out of the question -- do you live anywhere near there?
If it helps, I've definitely been in a similar situation in the past, though this was due to just plain stupidity: I drove to L.A. to see Ministry (this was the "Fornicatour" for Animositisomina almost exactly 13 years ago) and I stayed out later than I should've at Amoeba Records and lost track of time.
By the time I got to the venue, the show had just concluded. It was a bit of an early night for a band like Ministry, but still, I should've known better. Very bummed.
I'm guessing the New York date on the 20th is out of the question -- do you live anywhere near there?
I live in Glasgow, Scotland, so will have to make do with the two (admittedly outstanding) Roundhouse gigs in London - which I was at.
This is a somewhat impromptu trip to see one of my favourite bands, and I did have a wee look to see who else was playing (GNR, Iron Maiden, both sold out) but didn't even realise Underworld had announced any US shows.
So now it's also a trip to miss one of my favourite bands too.
As for your Ministry experience (if you like them I imagine you'd also like Combichrist?), I think I saw them here on that same tour. It was definitely around 2003. They're playing here again this August, presumably as part of a new world tour.
I can also match the complete-missing-of-a-band-you-badly-wanted-to-see, having once arrived in a venue just as Twisted Sister shouted "Good night!".
ultradave
04-06-2016, 11:27 AM
Any thoughts from anyone would be more than welcome, and again, I hope my lack of preference for GNR didn’t offend.
Guns N Posers ;) I doubt you offended many if any here. Glad to have another veteran RTSR dirt here. I had a chance to meet R & K briefly back in 2010 at the 4th & B show in San Diego. That was an amazing night. Before the show, I was sitting at a pizza joint with a friend of mine and they just happened to be strolling back to the venue from who knows where. The excited kid in me jumped up and ran out to catch up to them, unfortunately I was totally out of breath and combine that with nervousness... I'm sure they thought I was crazy. But they were polite and we shook hands. I hope to someday have the chance to thank them proper for their art which I do very much appreciate.
Welcome and Cheers! :D
Rioja
04-06-2016, 09:26 PM
JRAM said:
I live in Glasgow, Scotland, so will have to make do with the two (admittedly outstanding) Roundhouse gigs in London - which I was at.
Ok well now I don't feel as bad for you. ;) Here I was, thinking you hadn't seen them in years, and you just saw them twice! (Still a bit of a bummer, I'm sure, but you'll survive.) One of my goals is to see them at least once in their native land like you've done, though if we're going to get really technical, that would mean once in Worcester (for Karl) and once in Ammanford (for Rick). (Though I have no idea if those places actually have music venues.)
This is a somewhat impromptu trip to see one of my favourite bands, and I did have a wee look to see who else was playing (GNR, Iron Maiden, both sold out) but didn't even realise Underworld had announced any US shows.
So now it's also a trip to miss one of my favourite bands too.
So I take it you're an Axl Rose fan? If so, sounds like he's going to be taking Brian Johnson's place in AC/DC. (No offense, but I don't see how anyone could take Brian's place. Not even if they resurrected Bon Scott. (But I'm sure that's tantamount to sacrilege to those Down Under.)) So when they inevitably tour the world again, you'll be able to see Rose sing some tunes that are better (on average) than most GNR songs. (Again, no offense, but I just think AC/DC is a better band. (And by his own admission in an interview I heard once, Richard Smith would apparently agree.))
And Maiden's English (as you undoubtedly know already), so you're sure to see Bruce again.
As for your Ministry experience (if you like them I imagine you'd also like Combichrist?), I think I saw them here on that same tour. It was definitely around 2003. They're playing here again this August, presumably as part of a new world tour.
Yeah you know I think Combichrist is ok. Admittedly, I've only heard the stuff off of Everybody Hates You, which I've played frequently at some DJ gigs here in the States. (I had to: the owner of the place is a big fan.) But I think they're a little too obvious in their animosity sometimes and their use of the female Mac-voice is a bit... trite. And the rhythm programming is not quite as inventive as I'd like.
Ministry's a bit different in that Al Jourgensen has such a profound history of making music. In fact, it's hard to believe (at least for me) that he's now been doing it just as long without his former music partner (Paul Barker) as he had with him. And he's all over the place, musically: mandolins, harmonicas, pedal steels, sax, violin, etc. That, in addition to his industrial virtuosity with a trusty Les Paul and limitless electronic gadgetry. And he's just been around so long: he's our generation's Keith Richards. God knows "Uncle Al" should be all rights have died years ago with the things he's done.
I can also match the complete-missing-of-a-band-you-badly-wanted-to-see, having once arrived in a venue just as Twisted Sister shouted "Good night!".
Twisted Sister? You're an odd one, you are. (It's a compliment; I regard myself the same.) Tell me, what do TS and Underworld have in common? (I'm asking you sincerely, here. Not joking or making fun.) Or do you appreciate the fact that to you they don't have anything in common, either?
With musical taste as disparate as yours, I don't think I'm going out on too much of a limb if I speculate you're a considerable Aphex Twin fan. (If so, same here. Definitely another very talented Richard.)
ULTRADAVE said:
Guns N Posers ;) I doubt you offended many if any here.
Actually, I think you may have offended Jram. ;)
Glad to have another veteran RTSR dirt here.
Thank you! I believe I remember you from back in the day, though I know you probably can’t say the same for me. I actually don’t think I was all that active, but yeah my claim to fame is that I’m on that Power On compilation as “Lifedownstairs”. There was also someone I think in the UK who got to have their own radio show for a night (this was back in February 2003 – don’t ask me how I remember) and, being an RTSR Dirt, it was of course very UW-inspired. Stuff from “Bootleg Babies” was definitely played and also a few tracks from that Power On compilation. I think that remains the only time I’ve ever been played live on-air.
I had a chance to meet R & K briefly back in 2010 at the 4th & B show in San Diego. That was an amazing night. Before the show, I was sitting at a pizza joint with a friend of mine and they just happened to be strolling back to the venue from who knows where. The excited kid in me jumped up and ran out to catch up to them, unfortunately I was totally out of breath and combine that with nervousness... I'm sure they thought I was crazy. But they were polite and we shook hands. I hope to someday have the chance to thank them proper for their art which I do very much appreciate.
I was at that show! (Of course I was, being a San Diego Dirt.) But I think what you may have perceived as a wrong impression of you was likely just Karl feeling broken. I hear he was pretty ill (the bad kind) that night with what I think was a stomach flu. (Something he ate, I believe, though of course I don’t want to unfairly disparage local eateries.)
Regardless, you to me are one lucky gent, as I’m under the impression that such chance encounters of the wonder-duo are few and far between. I’m still wondering how early I should get in line for this show.
Troy McClure
04-06-2016, 10:25 PM
In case this is new info, The Fox Theater webpage for the Pomona show currently shows doors open at 8:00pm.
http://www.foxpomona.com/events/detail/306438
--Jason
Rioja
04-06-2016, 10:57 PM
In case this is new info, The Fox Theater webpage for the Pomona show currently shows doors open at 8:00pm.
Cool - thank you, Jason. My ticket does show that, but the site read that just because I have a "GA Floor" ticket does not necessarily guarantee me access to the floor.
Now, I'm not precisely sure what that means, but I assume it to signify that floor is first-come/first-serve. However, I don't know how early they're going to let people start lining up.
Anyway, before I waste any more of your time and mine with my senseless lack of brevity, I should probably just do the obvious thing and call the venue.
crank
04-07-2016, 02:23 PM
I think Scott is still around but maybe once a year if at all. Todd may know?
TheBang
04-07-2016, 02:35 PM
Scott hasn't been active in the community since around OwB and only posted a few thoughts when Barking came out. You can see his posts here:
https://www.borndirty.org/forums/search.php?do=finduser&u=1
Rioja
04-07-2016, 03:58 PM
Scott hasn't been active in the community since around OwB and only posted a few thoughts when Barking came out. You can see his posts here:
https://www.borndirty.org/forums/search.php?do=finduser&u=1
Got it - thank you for that. Are you Todd, by the way? (Please forgive the unfamiliarity.)
Rioja
04-11-2016, 02:14 PM
Gotta give this thread some resurrection since the gig's in just 2 days: is anyone here familiar with the venue? I've only been there once and it was to see Between The Buried And Me a few years ago now. If anyone is familiar with the theater, would he/she give me an idea about how early people might be lining up on Wednesday?
ndrwrld
04-11-2016, 10:03 PM
i met Rick outside the Roseland NYC at their last gig there, and i can tell you , if you see him outside after ( it's worth the wait ), he'll be very pleasant, and probably sign something if you have it on you.
He signed my Underworld Adidas shoes...i took them off right on the sidewalk, he took them in, and got Karl to sign as well. He told me he really shouldn't, as i wouldn't wear them, but i do at certain Club gigs. i was extremely fortunate.
Stick around...you never know.
i would think people would want to get in there as close to ' doors open ' as possible, to get a spot right up front.
this is going to be a special gig for sure.
Rioja
04-11-2016, 10:55 PM
i met Rick outside the Roseland NYC at their last gig there, and i can tell you , if you see him outside after ( it's worth the wait ), he'll be very pleasant, and probably sign something if you have it on you.
He signed my Underworld Adidas shoes...i took them off right on the sidewalk, he took them in, and got Karl to sign as well. He told me he really shouldn't, as i wouldn't wear them, but i do at certain Club gigs. i was extremely fortunate.
Stick around...you never know.
i would think people would want to get in there as close to ' doors open ' as possible, to get a spot right up front.
this is going to be a special gig for sure.
Thank you man -- yeah I'm sure it'll be a good gig. I'm really grateful we have a nice theater like the Fox in L.A.'s outskirts. I mean, L.A. has no shortage of great venues, but I'm thinking perhaps UW booked it because of the great time they had playing the Fox in Oakland some years ago. And/or could be because the Hard Music Fest is also located in Pomona, an event they were slated to play back in 2009 but weren't able to due to near-riots on behalf of some less-than-responsible "fans".
(I was there for that, actually: L.A. Forum. Nightmare: whole thing shut down at 11p.)
Anyway, no matter the reason, I'm elated this is happening. I plan on getting there plenty early and for sure hanging out for a bit after. I actually don't really want anything signed, but a quick photo would be amazing. They seem to be healthy and doing well, but this is their 36th year of making music together (and my 20th year as a fan) and I'd really like something to remember them by should these great times ever have to end. (God forbid, of course.)
I know one needs to separate the art from the artist, but I have to say that as kind, intelligent, and generous as they both are (and I'm sure Darren is too), they make it very easy to appreciate both.
Chris M
04-12-2016, 04:46 PM
Heys Dirts,
It's been a minute - I'll be doing photo coverage for the band again (similar to the recent Hollywood Bowl gig) and wanted to get sense of who is up for doing another Dirty group photo in front of the venue.
~Holler!
darktrain
04-12-2016, 05:07 PM
Heys Dirts,
It's been a minute - I'll be doing photo coverage for the band again (similar to the recent Hollywood Bowl gig) and wanted to get sense of who is up for doing another Dirty group photo in front of the venue.
~Holler!
Not sure what time I'll be getting there, but if you want to post a location/time for this, I'd be down if timing allows.
Rioja
04-12-2016, 05:35 PM
It's been a minute - I'll be doing photo coverage for the band again (similar to the recent Hollywood Bowl gig) and wanted to get sense of who is up for doing another Dirty group photo in front of the venue.
Not sure what time I'll be getting there, but if you want to post a location/time for this, I'd be down if timing allows.
Woo-hoo! I'd definitely be down, as well! (Nice portfolio, by the way..)
Chris M
04-12-2016, 06:24 PM
Not sure what time I'll be getting there, but if you want to post a location/time for this, I'd be down if timing allows.
let's aim for a 6:45 - 7ish (hopefully there is still sunlight) underneath the venue marquee. I'll be strapped with camera gear so you can't miss me.
cool everyone?
http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/29/14/291444c637c2478726d893c08398a92d.jpg?itok=o7r-ZIAk
Professor
04-12-2016, 08:14 PM
word. I'll be drinking at the Trappist before that if anyone wants to join.
Rioja
04-12-2016, 08:52 PM
word. I'll be drinking at the Trappist before that if anyone wants to join.
I'm not finding a Trappist in Pomona; only in Oakland, where there are 2 of em. I also noticed you're in SF. You sure you're not thinking this is the Fox Theater in Oakland?
Rioja
04-12-2016, 09:10 PM
Not sure what time I'll be getting there, but if you want to post a location/time for this, I'd be down if timing allows.
let's aim for a 6:45 - 7ish (hopefully there is still sunlight) underneath the venue marquee. I'll be strapped with camera gear so you can't miss me.
cool everyone?
Sounds good, as long as there aren't too many people in line by that time. (I gotta gotta get to the floor!) Perhaps even more importantly, I'm wondering what time/place might be best to up my chances of a brief, coincidental encounter with R and/or K.
Also, anyone planning on getting a few glasses of truth serum at DBA256 wine bar before the gig? Place is well-recommended and seems reasonable...
Troy McClure
04-12-2016, 11:34 PM
let's aim for a 6:45 - 7ish (hopefully there is still sunlight) underneath the venue marquee. I'll be strapped with camera gear so you can't miss me.
cool everyone?
http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/29/14/291444c637c2478726d893c08398a92d.jpg?itok=o7r-ZIAk
Count me in for a picture meet-up. Last year's pictures at the Bowl turned out great. I drove by the Fox Theater tonight after checking into my hotel. Venue looks like a great old place from the outside.
-Jason
Chris M
04-13-2016, 10:33 AM
I need to take the edge off, so I'm totally in for grabbing drinks early across the street beforehand.
Banstylin'
04-13-2016, 03:18 PM
Would like to join the pic but also don't wanna lose my place in line.. wanna be one of the first inside for merch. Say hi if you see me. I'll be in the black dubno shirt.
starfox203
04-13-2016, 04:03 PM
A group of us will be meeting up at the Rookery Alehouse before the show.
SET TIMES
8pm door
9-9:40 Bob Moses
10-12am UNDERWORLD
Professor
04-13-2016, 04:05 PM
I was indeed getting the Pomona show mixed up with the Oakland show.
TheBang
04-13-2016, 07:58 PM
Would like to join the pic but also don't wanna lose my place in line.. wanna be one of the first inside for merch. Say hi if you see me. I'll be in the black dubno shirt.
Sorry I don't think they brought any merch. Also, I don't think you need to worry about a line.
ultradave
04-13-2016, 10:32 PM
I didn't see any merch. Opening band didn't go on until after 9. UW will likely go on around 11 or so... I'm up in the balcony 4th row center...
ultradave
04-13-2016, 11:35 PM
Well I was wrong. They started at 10pm on the dot! Freakin' Rad show so far!!! Nylon Strung...
TheBang
04-14-2016, 02:02 AM
Ah, what a great show. So many songs I haven't heard live before. I thought the crowd was really good too. Probably one of the best US crowds I've seen for Underworld.
I hope you hung around the side entrance, today, Rioja. There were lots of opportunities to meet them before and after the show as they came and went.
Chris got some nice pictures. I'm sure he'll chime in soon. Nice to meet Troy McClure, darktrain, khouri, and the other non-dirty superfans.
Troy McClure
04-14-2016, 02:38 AM
What a fantastic night it was tonight. The guys were full of energy and feeding off the crowd all night. And vice versa. Every song was a strong performance. There were 8 songs counting the new stuff that I'd never heard in person before.
It was great to meet some board members in the flesh. Looking forward to pictures Chris took.
Safe travels to everyone, and hopefully some more shows in the near future.
Jason
deckard236
04-14-2016, 08:21 AM
What a fantastic show! 2 hour set, pretty much that same as they have been playing except no Dark Train or Faxed Invitation. Highlights for me were: 8 Ball, If Rah, Juanita, Ring Road and Dirty Club. Highlight for my 23 year old daughter who went was meeting both Karl & Rick at the hotel she and her boyfriend decided to stay at so they wouldn't have to drive home so late. She got a picture with Rick, said they were both really nice.
potatobroth
04-14-2016, 08:43 AM
What a fantastic show! 2 hour set, pretty much that same as they have been playing except no Dark Train or Faxed Invitation. Highlights for me were: 8 Ball, If Rah, Juanita, Ring Road and Dirty Club. Highlight for my 23 year old daughter who went was meeting both Karl & Rick at the hotel she and her boyfriend decided to stay at so they wouldn't have to drive home so late. She got a picture with Rick, said they were both really nice.
were those missing songs replaced with others or just cut a bit short?
deckard236
04-14-2016, 09:15 AM
were those missing songs replaced with others or just cut a bit short?
No they were not replaced, but they played the full "Juanita/Kiteless/To Dream of Love" Not sure if that's what was played at previous shows or not.
svirfnebli
04-14-2016, 09:24 AM
Fantastic show - LOVED Eight Ball
potatobroth
04-14-2016, 10:05 AM
very excited for my nyc show next week.
Troy McClure
04-14-2016, 10:23 AM
were those missing songs replaced with others or just cut a bit short?
There weren't any songs new to the tour played last night.
I think this was the order :
I Exhale
If Rah
Juanita
Ova Nova
Nylon Strung
Two Months Off
Eight Ball
Jumbo
Ring Road Minneapolis
Push Upstairs
King Of Snake
Dirty Club
Low Burn
Rowla
Rez
Cowgirl
Born Slippy. NUXX
--Jason
ultradave
04-14-2016, 10:25 AM
It was an amazing night. I don't think I've ever danced so much at an UW show. The highlight of the night for me was definitely Juanita. Dirty Club was nice, is this new or am I just out of touch? Basically it was Dirty Epic totally stripped down with a very ambient groove. I really enjoyed it. This is not the exact order, but here's what tracks I recall from the show - please chime in if you know it exact:
I Exhale, If Rah, Juanita, 8 Ball, Two Months Off, Ova Nova, Nylon Strung, Rowla, Jumbo, Push Upstairs, King of Snake, Ring Road, Rez, Cowgirl, Low Burn, Dirty Club, Born Slippy .NUXX
Thank you Rick, Karl, and Darren for putting on an amazing show!
The crowd was awesome last night, everybody was dancing up in the balcony.
starfox203
04-14-2016, 04:51 PM
Photos: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/9w5ufrwz7gwhmzy/AABpPImsw3HW6F_KNCczP4Lda?dl=0
Chris M
04-14-2016, 07:08 PM
Ah, what a great show. So many songs I haven't heard live before. I thought the crowd was really good too. Probably one of the best US crowds I've seen for Underworld.
I hope you hung around the side entrance, today, Rioja. There were lots of opportunities to meet them before and after the show as they came and went.
Chris got some nice pictures. I'm sure he'll chime in soon. Nice to meet Troy McClure, darktrain, khouri, and the other non-dirty superfans.
Yes-Yes. Lot's of images to sort over the coming days. Band management was very generous with coverage access. I'm teaming up with Thomas Kelley who did the fantastic L.A. Weekly piece for the Hollywood Bowl. We'll be putting together a review, photo essays, and images.
Solid set overall. To quote Rick's wife after the gig "it was a banging set". Atmosphere was electric - everyone there seemed to be a genuine fan, not just a casual spectator.
TheBang it was great sharing pre and post show conversation.
Troy McClure - good to see you again. next time have some conviction when you meet the band and get yer stuff signed :p
khouri
04-14-2016, 10:30 PM
This was one of the most energetic American crowds I've ever seen for Underworld. Everyone was going nuts. The audio was great, all the songs sounded excellent. After the Dubnobass show in London and the shorter Hollywood Bowl show, I'd forgotten that Underworld delivered such long and high energy shows. Miles better than anything I attended during the Barking era too.
I Exhale
If Rah
Juanita
Ova Nova
Nylon Strung
Two Months Off
8 Ball
Jumbo
Ring Road/Minneapolis
Push Upstairs
King of Snake
Dirty Club
Low Burn
Rowla
Rez/Cowgirl
Nuxx
I Exhale + If Rah sounded great live and really got the crowd jumping. They're my least favorite songs on BB, but they made a kind of sense to me live that they don't on the record. Very enjoyable.
Juanita was the just album version with some small flourishes, effects and so forth, such as the "resonator" sample heard prominently on Everything Everything. The drums seemed really high in the mix in a good way. I really enjoyed it despite the lack of improv/deconstruction. They played the full 16-min version and it sounded marvelous.
Ova Nova + Nylon Strung did not work live, not for me anyway. Paradoxically, they're my favorite songs on BB. They just slowed everything down so much, I started yawning honestly.
Two Months Off was performed exactly as it has been for the last 14 years. The most boring weapon in Underworld's arsenal, but people still seem to go fucking nuts for it.
8 Ball was supremely disappointing live. I was sad when I didn't see Karl's guitar on stage at the start of the show but I didn't realize how dire it would be until this track, which has so many cool guitar parts. Effectively a karaoke performance.
Jumbo is always great to hear live but it's the same version we've all heard for nearly 20 years. I miss the way they played around with it on the Oblivion tour. That said, it still sounded wonderful in the theater and people loved it.
Ring Road/Minneapolis was beautiful. Karl was out of time for much of it but it was still exciting to see them go for it and play around with mixing elements of different tracks together. Despite the fact that they've been playing it on this tour, this arrangement felt live and fresh and a bit risky, the way a live band should sound.
Push Upstairs: Another fairly rote version but with Rick pushing different elements around in the mix. Hearing Push on a sound system remains a brilliant experience. Sounded wonderful, dark and dangerous.
King of Snake: Super energetic version. Dug it.
Dirty Club: Like the Ring Road/Minneapolis mashup, this was a treat. A new arrangement, cross-polination of songs, hearing sounds from the ancient records brought into the future. I wish they'd take this approach with more of the repertoire.
Low Burn: Another karaoke version. There's got to be a proper 10 minute version of this song somewhere and one day I hope we hear it.
Rowla: Rick had some fun with this.
Rez/Cowgirl: Rick took some risks with this one, relative to the other songs. Lots of changes, effects and such. Cowgirl was a hybrid of the album version and the live version that Underworld's played forever. Sounded great.
Nuxx: Standard version. There's so much room to mess about with this song and they never do anymore.
Obviously I can't know exactly how Rick's new gear works but based on what I heard and observed, it seems like he is triggering and manipulating all the sounds live just like he used to -- but I'm honestly at a loss as to what end. If the goal is to reproduce the album arrangements as closely as possible, you hardly need to go through that trouble. I also think that it's no longer possible to segue between tracks. The segue between Ova Nova and Nylon Strung was such a hard cut that I suspect only one Ableton session is being loaded into the console at a time, and Darren just activated it on the beat.
Again, I can't presume to know what Rick's thinking is, but the end result is a distinctly not-live Underworld Live. Very few surprises, no flow from one song to another, no "conversation" as Karl has described it. These shows are really electronic music recitals -- of uncommonly brilliant songs, no doubt -- but recitals nonetheless. Whereas not even ten years ago, on the Oblivion tour was brimming with inspiration, unpredictability and sonic bliss. I just don't get what the appeal is of this style of performance to the band or to the audience.
That said, the crowd loved it and the guys seemed overjoyed, so maybe I'm just not keeping up with whatever's happening.
holden
04-15-2016, 12:24 PM
This was one of the most energetic American crowds I've ever seen for Underworld. Everyone was going nuts. The audio was great, all the songs sounded excellent. After the Dubnobass show in London and the shorter Hollywood Bowl show, I'd forgotten that Underworld delivered such long and high energy shows. Miles better than anything I attended during the Barking era too.
Again, I can't presume to know what Rick's thinking is, but the end result is a distinctly not-live Underworld Live. Very few surprises, no flow from one song to another, no "conversation" as Karl has described it. These shows are really electronic music recitals -- of uncommonly brilliant songs, no doubt -- but recitals nonetheless. Whereas not even ten years ago, on the Oblivion tour was brimming with inspiration, unpredictability and sonic bliss. I just don't get what the appeal is of this style of performance to the band or to the audience.
Appreciate your review and thoughts! Wish I could have been there...regardless of the pros and cons of the setlist/performance style, nothing quite like the energy of the boys playing classics and new tracks to a live audience.
Still, for those that can't be there, the saving grace has always been the extensive recorded history- be there virtually! Thanks to the fans and RTSR, i have dozens and dozens of shows from 1992 to present. Why? Because until 2010 Barking tour, you could count on different setlists almost every night, long segues, improvisation. Even a static setlist is fine (most bands do it or only change in/out a few tracks), provided there's some internal variety from night to night.
But with Barking tour and now BBWFASF, though i love the individual songs, i don't know that i need to collect or listen to gigs that are almost identical each night. Have heard/downloaded the short and long versions of the tour set, so i'm happy to hear the likes of Faxed, Juanita, Ring Road/Minneapolis, and Dirty Club. But unless things change up, i agree with many of your comments above - it feels a little bit, er, automatic. UW were always more than just pushing play and singing on top...
Anyway, sounds like it was a fun show and that some folks got to meet the band! Cool
potatobroth
04-15-2016, 12:44 PM
Chemical Brothers do a static setlist yet it feels more live because of the way its mixed. Sounds like this tour is much more album versions of each track. That is a bummer.
Rioja
04-15-2016, 03:03 PM
I hope you hung around the side entrance, today, Rioja. There were lots of opportunities to meet them before and after the show as they came and went.
I did, yes! Actually, I parked right around 6p and walked over to the side entrance and was told they had just left after soundcheck. This was a bummer because I spent some time discovering a cheaper parking lot and thought then I had blown the chance to meet them just to shave off a meager $6 on parking.
So I then went into the bar, had a bit to drink, then got in line for floor access/wristbands. I had been told that I was not to leave the bar area lest I give up my place "in line", and that once the gig started there could be no venue re-entries.
Hence, the next time I had the opportunity to visit the side entrance was not until after the gig. Actually considered waiting in the venue in front of the stage to see if R and/or K would perhaps be coming out there to meet/greet, but that option was quickly nixed by security urging everyone to exit.
So, I walked outside, around the theater to the back because I thought R/K would be exiting that way, if they hadn't already. I waited there until about 12:20a after no one left through that door except a couple security staff.
Then I went back around to the side entrance where there were just 6 or 7 people hanging around the open door. At that point, I didn't know what they were waiting for, but I didn't want to seem like a creep and/or clueless by asking, "Heyyy.. are you guys waiting for the band?"
But then someone mentioned that R/K would be coming out that way, so my ears definitely perked up at that point. And an Australian with whom I had a short conversation said that the two had shown up at the door, then turned around to go back inside for an unknown reason.
Were they tired and therefore wanted to leave some other way to avoid being asked for photos, signing, and the like? I had no idea.
But I didn't wonder long because it seemed right as I thought that, there they were! Rick was beaming and seemed very happy to meet people and Karl was a bit more reserved I think under a hoodie which was almost too big for his head.
He was just a bit tired, which of course is to be expected from someone who has just danced his ass off for nearly 2 hours. I would be absolutely done, physically, if I could even do that at all, which I doubt. But Karl does it full-on and he's nearly 20 years older than I! No idea how he does that.
So I almost instantly chatted up Rick, who for some reason or another I thought might have a bit more reserved personality than Karl, but damn if I didn't turn out to be wrong! For 5 - 10 minutes, we had a great conversation, and he didn't seem at all put off by my typically intense demeanor, which can throw people off a bit when they first meet me.
We talked about Wales, Pearls Girl (I'd always wanted to know what synth it was that made that amazing, filtered bass line, and now I know: a Nord 1), sampling, creating as an artist even when you feel like that's the last thing you want to do (but you've got to do it), why sometimes making record can be a miserable experience, his recommendation of the book "Steal Like An Artist", staring down the dole office and thinking there's no way you're going to make it... and then having the support of someone you love somehow helping you find a way. (In Rick's case, that person was his wife, without whom he said he'd likely never have found the strength to press on.)
He was amazing: very appreciative, genuine, and complimentary. And I absolutely could not believe that I was standing there, talking to my hero. (In fact, there's just one other famous musician with whom a conversation was such a pleasure, and that was -- believe it or not -- Ogre from Skinny Puppy. (I say "believe it or not" since, you know, with a stage name like "Ogre", you expect at least a bit of animosity. Not true at all in that guy's case though.))
Seeing as it was time to be going, I asked Rick for a photo and, again, being very gracious, he was more than willing to do that, as well. After I thanked him again, I looked over at Karl and, seeing that he was totally exhausted, simply said "Karl, thank you for everything." He nodded, smiled very genuinely, and said "thank you" back. Though I think he was a bit thrown off by this lanky, intense-looking, 6' 3" guy with, I suppose, substantial amounts of ink, some might say. (It seemed a bit like Karl was thinking, "Is this guy going to attack me or thank me?")
But there again, I could not believe that I was standing a couple feet away from my 2 favorite musicians of the past 20 years. It was such a wonderfully surreal experience, one that would be impossible to repeat. And I'm grateful for that because I I'd like nothing more than the memory of that evening to live on forever.
(Photo of Rick and I coming up soon...)
And even after I'd left the side entrance and gone around to the front of the theater, I walked back over to the side once more to hug the guy that took the photo of Rick and I. I had no one else with me that night and so I remain crazy grateful to that person for taking the pic. In fact, I appreciate it more than I can say, but sadly I don't even know his name...
TheBang
04-15-2016, 03:58 PM
And even after I'd left the side entrance and gone around to the front of the theater, I walked back over to the side once more to hug the guy that took the photo of Rick and I. I had no one else with me that night and so I remain crazy grateful to that person for taking the pic. In fact, I appreciate it more than I can say, but sadly I don't even know his name...
Haha, well, that was me taking the picture. You were so happy. I'm glad you were able to talk to him for so long. The other guys with me were Chris M and Troy McClure from this very thread.
Rioja
04-15-2016, 07:23 PM
Haha, well, that was me taking the picture. You were so happy. I'm glad you were able to talk to him for so long. The other guys with me were Chris M and Troy McClure from this very thread.
Hah - I had no idea it was you! Thank you again so much, man -- it means more than I can say. I'm a bit bummed that I missed the Dirts group photo, but that was my fault for deciding to go wait in the bar. Did that go down, and if so, was it outside under the marquee?
Regarding the pic, you did a great job. I think the expression on my face could have been a little less intense, but obviously that's all me. I have this look that's either "I have you now" or "I cannot believe this is happening and I'm afraid it's just a dream". (Or, you know, some combination of those 2.)
But of course I didn't want to say to you and Rick, "Hey, can we do this again so I don't look quite so crazy?" (Well, looking at it again, maybe not crazy, just, intense... And anyway, I'm not sure I even would have been able to change my expression at that time since I did feel like what was happening was so unreal.)
Anyway, it's Rick's expression that matters most to me - and he looks like he's having fun. (I would hate to have had the expressions the other way around.)
Suffice to say, you did great, man -- thank you for taking it! (Pic in question still coming up soon...)
Troy McClure
04-15-2016, 08:02 PM
And even after I'd left the side entrance and gone around to the front of the theater, I walked back over to the side once more to hug the guy that took the photo of Rick and I. I had no one else with me that night and so I remain crazy grateful to that person for taking the pic. In fact, I appreciate it more than I can say, but sadly I don't even know his name...
I was the one in the black shirt with the 'dubno...' cover on the front.
Glad that was you got to speak with Rick. I over heard him say 'Steal Like an Artist', and thought that was an interesting saying. I didn't know it's a book title. But now, knowing that's a book, and the context of it, that's a great story and memory. Thanks for sharing.
Hah - I had no idea it was you! Thank you again so much, man -- it means more than I can say. I'm a bit bummed that I missed the Dirts group photo, but that was my fault for deciding to go wait in the bar. Did that go down, and if so, was it outside under the marquee?
It was just TheBang and I that made the meeting time with Chris M. But, with the concert being in Pomona it's very understandable. I heard traffic getting there was hectic. Hopefully, another time in the future.
--Jason
Troy McClure
04-15-2016, 08:09 PM
Yes-Yes. Lot's of images to sort over the coming days. Band management was very generous with coverage access. I'm teaming up with Thomas Kelley who did the fantastic L.A. Weekly piece for the Hollywood Bowl. We'll be putting together a review, photo essays, and images.
Solid set overall. To quote Rick's wife after the gig "it was a banging set". Atmosphere was electric - everyone there seemed to be a genuine fan, not just a casual spectator.
TheBang it was great sharing pre and post show conversation.
Troy McClure - good to see you again. next time have some conviction when you meet the band and get yer stuff signed :p
I'll remember for sure....:p I think I used up all my conviction / courage to say hello to Rick earlier in the day and again that night with Karl & Rick.
Troy McClure
04-15-2016, 08:38 PM
YouTube Videos that I've found so far:
All credit to the poster:
I Exhale (complete)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHx6b_n2uUY
If Rah (partial)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx2iE8s-EbU
Juanita (last 3 minutes from very front, very slight distortion)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alCzqw-nIUw
end of Ova Nova / Nylon Strung (5 minute parital) (nice interaction between Rick and Karl)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EsYA_Jqppg
Nylon Strung (complete)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJh1dX0FVGo
Two Months Off:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0qe6VKzKA4
Eight Ball (complete)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRCTOYoFTwI
King of Snake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaO1q5qh220 complete
Rez (partial)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFITL_7Q2wc
deckard236
04-16-2016, 04:34 PM
Haha, well, that was me taking the picture. You were so happy. I'm glad you were able to talk to him for so long. The other guys with me were Chris M and Troy McClure from this very thread.
Some day I would like to meet up wth you guys. "The Bang" You were especially helpful to me uploading the Dubno Dat back in 2008. I go to all of the L.A. area shows but due to my work schedule and traveling time I usually get there just before show time and leave immediately after. I left at just after midnight, got home at 1:30 and was up at 4:30 for work. Hopefully someday soon. Cheers!
cdave2
04-16-2016, 08:19 PM
Nice to hear everyone had such a great time and a big hello to Jason and Chris from the Bowl last year! (Man, to be able to hear the revamped "Dirty" and "8 Ball" in person...ah well, hope to see you guys next time around!)
There weren't any songs new to the tour played last night.
I think this was the order :
I Exhale
If Rah
Juanita
Ova Nova
Nylon Strung
Two Months Off
Eight Ball
Jumbo
Ring Road Minneapolis
Push Upstairs
King Of Snake
Dirty Club
Low Burn
Rowla
Rez
Cowgirl
Born Slippy. NUXX
--Jason
Did they also play Dark Train and Faxed?
Troy McClure
04-17-2016, 06:44 PM
Did they also play Dark Train and Faxed?
Mike,
Neither Dark Train or Faxed were played at Pomona. Visiting with TheBang pre-show he mentioned seeing the written setlist at the soundboard and that 'Faxed' was on it.
Maybe skipped over due to a 2 hour slot vs 2+ hours at other cities. It would have been cool to hear it live given how good the soundsystem was at the Fox.
Regards,
Jason
Troy McClure
04-17-2016, 06:52 PM
Nice to hear everyone had such a great time and a big hello to Jason and Chris from the Bowl last year! (Man, to be able to hear the revamped "Dirty" and "8 Ball" in person...ah well, hope to see you guys next time around!)
cdave2!!!
Nice to hear from you.... Yes, would be great seeing you again at another Underworld show.... Still hoping for that Chicago show so you can hear Dirty Club and 8 Ball.
-Jason
King of Snake
04-18-2016, 05:29 AM
Obviously I can't know exactly how Rick's new gear works but based on what I heard and observed, it seems like he is triggering and manipulating all the sounds live just like he used to -- but I'm honestly at a loss as to what end. If the goal is to reproduce the album arrangements as closely as possible, you hardly need to go through that trouble. I also think that it's no longer possible to segue between tracks. The segue between Ova Nova and Nylon Strung was such a hard cut that I suspect only one Ableton session is being loaded into the console at a time, and Darren just activated it on the beat.
Again, I can't presume to know what Rick's thinking is, but the end result is a distinctly not-live Underworld Live. Very few surprises, no flow from one song to another, no "conversation" as Karl has described it. These shows are really electronic music recitals -- of uncommonly brilliant songs, no doubt -- but recitals nonetheless. Whereas not even ten years ago, on the Oblivion tour was brimming with inspiration, unpredictability and sonic bliss. I just don't get what the appeal is of this style of performance to the band or to the audience.
That said, the crowd loved it and the guys seemed overjoyed, so maybe I'm just not keeping up with whatever's happening.
I have to say I fully agree with this. While I thoroughly enjoyed this show in Amsterdam a couple of weeks ago, I could not help but wonder what happened to the improvisation, the mixing and the surprises. Of course it was not really a surprise as they've been playing like this since the Barking tour but still...
Rick and Karl still tend to emphasize this improvisational aspect of Underworld live in interviews, but in reality it's all but dissapeared. The new tracks all sound virtually identical to the album versions when played live and Dark Train, Push, KOS, Nuxx, TMO etc, while always great to experience live, also don't really have anything new to them in this tour.
I also don't understand why they don't mix the tracks together at all. I find it hard to believe the technology of today doesn't allow for it, while technology 20 years ago did. It must be a conscious decision by Rick but as you say I cannot fathom the rationale behind it. To me, all the pauses between the tracks take away the momentum and some of the most exiting bits in UW live history were the moments in between the tracks. The anticipation of not knowing what track was gonna come next, and hearing elements from different tracks combined into new pieces.
Yes now they have Ring Road/Minneapolis wich works really well, and the new Dirty Club. But these combinations have been decided beforehand, and are not the result of spontanious live improvisation.
On top of that, Karl doesn't play any live guitar anymore at all, which is a crime especially on 8-Ball, and there's not much visual elements to the show anymore. No Green Laser (tm), no falling inflatable balls during Nuxx, no inflatable towers on stage, no Tomato visuals (well there's some visuals but it's really just the track titles)...
So in the end "all" that's left is hearing a collection of awesome tracks played really slick on a really loud soundsystem, and Rick and Karl seem to be really into it again. And that's great, but as a long time fan, and looking back at the history of their live show, it is frustrating because I can't fully understand why they do it this way.
King of Snake
04-18-2016, 05:38 AM
...
So I almost instantly chatted up Rick, who for some reason or another I thought might have a bit more reserved personality than Karl, but damn if I didn't turn out to be wrong! For 5 - 10 minutes, we had a great conversation, and he didn't seem at all put off by my typically intense demeanor, which can throw people off a bit when they first meet me.
We talked about Wales, Pearls Girl (I'd always wanted to know what synth it was that made that amazing, filtered bass line, and now I know: a Nord 1), sampling, creating as an artist even when you feel like that's the last thing you want to do (but you've got to do it), why sometimes making record can be a miserable experience, his recommendation of the book "Steal Like An Artist", staring down the dole office and thinking there's no way you're going to make it... and then having the support of someone you love somehow helping you find a way. (In Rick's case, that person was his wife, without whom he said he'd likely never have found the strength to press on.)
He was amazing: very appreciative, genuine, and complimentary. And I absolutely could not believe that I was standing there, talking to my hero. (In fact, there's just one other famous musician with whom a conversation was such a pleasure, and that was -- believe it or not -- Ogre from Skinny Puppy. (I say "believe it or not" since, you know, with a stage name like "Ogre", you expect at least a bit of animosity. Not true at all in that guy's case though.))
...
Great story and experience! I feel jealous! After all these years and dozens of live shows I still haven't met R&K in person yet. I would love to chat to them, and especially Rick, preferably for a couple of hours :)
Hopefully I'll still get the chance one day. I'll have to come up with a plan next time they visit here.
potatobroth
04-18-2016, 06:50 AM
Rick and Karl still tend to emphasize this improvisational aspect of Underworld live in interviews, but in reality it's all but dissapeared.
Pretty much every word you wrote I agree with. I always try to look at this from an average UW concert-goer's POV; they have no idea this is a pre-designed setlist. There are lots of people on facebook calling out for songs that "we" know won't be played.
Where'd the visuals go? Were the tubes or laser really that expensive? The laser for KoS, Moaner and Dirty Epic was so fantastic a live experience that I can't believe there were ever dropped.
I can't help but keep comparing them to the Chemical Brothers who put on a fantastic visual show, with a pre-designed setlist that FEELS like a live version or mix. The songs blend together in exciting new ways.
Now I'm still excited to see them on Wednesday, but this is not the Underworld Live experience I've loved for the past 20 years.
Troy McClure
04-18-2016, 07:40 PM
Some more YouTubes from Pomona popped up today:
I Exhale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5vNL1UgDxc
If Rah:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnTmGjPcJvo
Juanita (14 minute clip)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q04M1LPSzL0
Ova Nova:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blEX3f4UVuc
Nylon Strung
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EitmJz18tUA
Two Months Off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xusPnq7mvNw
Jumbo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHPzd0nSHGg
Push Upstairs clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoVy0hOOVfo
King of Snake clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stinUk2Of-w
Ring Road Minneapolis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR6Ujz6J6f4
Rowla
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_ZiHyAj4KU
Cowgirl (https://www.borndirty.org/forums/Cowgirl)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaDsyjKzfmA
svirfnebli
04-18-2016, 09:04 PM
So did anyone make an audio recording of the show?
TheBang
04-18-2016, 10:05 PM
So did anyone make an audio recording of the show?
Yes!
svirfnebli
04-19-2016, 01:41 PM
Cool! Do you intend to post it to the tracker at some point?
cdave2
04-19-2016, 06:42 PM
Nice to hear from you.... Yes, would be great seeing you again at another Underworld show.... Still hoping for that Chicago show so you can hear Dirty Club and 8 Ball.
Hey Jason!
Oh, you know I live in hope for Chicago. Not forgetting Phoenix either. :)
Glad you were able to say hello to the guys and get some things signed. Sounds like an amazing evening!
-Cathy
cdave2
04-19-2016, 07:04 PM
Where'd the visuals go? Were the tubes or laser really that expensive? The laser for KoS, Moaner and Dirty Epic was so fantastic a live experience that I can't believe there were ever dropped.
I can't help but keep comparing them to the Chemical Brothers who put on a fantastic visual show, with a pre-designed setlist that FEELS like a live version or mix. The songs blend together in exciting new ways.
Now I'm still excited to see them on Wednesday, but this is not the Underworld Live experience I've loved for the past 20 years.
As much as I hate to admit it, I generally agree with this and King of Snake's earlier post. The visuals aren't necessary for me, although I do miss the raw kineticism of the 90s Tomato clips. But the music becoming more structured is another matter.
Wasn't an ambient show mentioned around the time of OwB? Something tells me that might still be a good idea. I was hoping they'd turn up at Moogfest a couple of years ago; they'd thrive in an experimental setting such as that.
Still, there's no one like 'em - still the most joyful group I've seen live.
jetpig
04-19-2016, 07:24 PM
The energy is still there at each show, but I think the boys put it best saying something like, "The best moments are when something goes wrong and there's a moment where noone knows quite how you will recover, but you do, and the show goes on and everyone goes mental for it." (paraphrased, obviously)
The structured shows and static setlist actively HINDER that from happening. I understand the desire for a smooth and slick set, but it'd be nice to hear some curveballs, and some risks, even if they don't always work out.
cdave2
04-19-2016, 07:40 PM
Exactly. I loved the 2002 Chicago show for that very reason. The audience was SO supportive of the guys...even the review in the paper the following day, if I recall correctly, mentioned that they had the musicianship to pull it off.
TheBang
04-19-2016, 09:23 PM
Cool! Do you intend to post it to the tracker at some point?
Yes!
svirfnebli
04-24-2016, 07:58 PM
Yes!
Monosyllabic response FTW! :p
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